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 Another CSO?
Author: Terry Stibal 
Date:   2006-07-25 18:49

I hate to be so vague about this, but my lovely wife, so wonderful in many other ways, threw away the postal card upon which this is based:

Yesterday, I received a card with the photo of a famous clarinet player on same on the front, along with a blurb on the back for a "new" clarinet to which he had just lent his endorsement. I want to say that it was M. Luree, but the name and face have faded since I saw the card (all too common as one grows older).

In any event, the text talked about two Chinese men who had approached him (in an unsolicited fashion, it appears) with an eye to "getting his opinions" on the instrument (which was made in China, no doubt about that in my mind). It concluded that he had been so impressed with the instrument that he had "volunteered" (!!!) to lend his endorsement to their marketing efforts.

From the style of the address on the card, it appears that this was sent out to subscribers of The Clarinet. As I've received many different musically related proffers based upon that subscription, I am pretty certain about that fact, at least. It does bother me a bit that a non-profit organization that I support (and have done so for over twenty years) is crass enough to sell my address, but what are you going to do.

Anyone else get this mailing? Any opinions on the instrument to which it alludes?

Incidentally, I've had two people now who have asked me about the "discount" clarinets available through the likes of Sam's Club. Of those two, one has actually taken my advice on what to do with them: buy a Yamaha student horn, and then buy the CSO and make a wall hanging out of it after my clever instructions.

leader of Houston's Sounds Of The South Dance Orchestra
info@sotsdo.com

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 Re: Another CSO?
Author: jbutler 2017
Date:   2006-07-25 19:02

That would be the reference to the new Tyro clarinet. Do a search and you'll find a posting about it a few weeks ago.

Secondly, now that First Act has received their 16.7 million from BMMG, they are spending some of their new found money on advertising. There is a full page ad in this month's TechniCom (NAPBIRT journal). I honestly believe First Act is trying to improve their image and their product.

jbutler

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 Re: Another CSO?
Author: Gregory Smith 2017
Date:   2006-07-25 19:24

"It does bother me a bit that a non-profit organization that I support (and have done so for over twenty years) is crass enough to sell my address, but what are you going to do."
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If true, it only seems reasonable that up front, one should be given the choice of individually opting out of the ICA's present policy of selling their mailing lists (which evidently also includes email addresses).

Something to bring up to your representative officers at the ICA meeting in Atlanta next month.

Gregory Smith

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 Re: Another CSO?
Author: Bradley 
Date:   2006-07-25 19:45

I agree, Mr. Smith. There was some commotion back-and-forth between people recently about this, and I think ICA was the real party at fault (if there was any). I <i>almost</i> glossed over the part where someone stated that ICA was selling our addresses, and then I was a little annoyed.


Bradley

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 Re: Another CSO?
Author: DEC 
Date:   2006-07-25 20:22

I got a spam about this clarinet a few weeks ago. What was most annoying was that all the addresses (about 2,000) that the email was sent to were in the clear in the "to" list. My Outlook Express tried to add all the email addresses to my contact list (there is an option for this) and it took me about an hour to clean up.

I guess I have ICA to thank for this.

Don

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 Re: Another CSO?
Author: Gregory Smith 2017
Date:   2006-07-25 21:12

This may be at the root of the SPAM problem mentioned a little while back at this site. I don't know but it is plausible.

The way many businesses work today, both street and website, the assumption is that one has to opt out of being put on a list. Hence the little check box (that's already checked by the way - you have to uncheck it), that comes with just about every web transaction is, in my view, an imposition. That kind of attitude is what phone solicitors got themselves into trouble with resulting in the national "do not call" list.

Gregory Smith

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 Re: Another CSO?
Author: Mark Charette 
Date:   2006-07-25 23:14

Gregory Smith wrote:

> The way many businesses work today, both street and website,
> the assumption is that one has to opt out of being put on a
> list. Hence the little check box (that's already checked by the
> way - you have to uncheck it), that comes with just about every
> web transaction is, in my view, an imposition.

In the case of the ICA website there's not even that option ... I will be writing a letter to the president and suggesting they run their own "opt-in" list in lieu of selling the email addresses. Then they can make sure that the email messages go only to those that want them, and they can have control over the "opt-out" message required by the CAN-SPAM Act.

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