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 really good studies needed!!!
Author: willr13 
Date:   2006-07-03 13:57

HI everyone, I was wandering what you would reccomend for really useful productive studies, for tone, legato, basically everything!! I've done the jean jean Vade Mecum for the past few years, the Jettel and uhl and would like to start looking at some other stuff over the summer break, Lydnsey Marsh swears by the Kroepsch, but there are so many!!! which ones!!?? anyway any ideas appreciated, thanks.



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 Re: really good studies needed!!!
Author: bill28099 
Date:   2006-07-03 14:10

Polatschek Advanced Studies

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 Re: really good studies needed!!!
Author: xxColorMeJoshxx 
Date:   2006-07-03 14:29

If you haven't done the Rose studies - they are a must!



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 Re: really good studies needed!!!
Author: clarinetgirl09 
Date:   2006-07-03 14:38

The Klose book is out there, too. It's really good. It has a lot of good stuff in it. It starts out with basics, such as long tones, then goes on to diminished chords and the such. Through the entire book, there are hints about almost everyting you could imagine, such as a fingering chart for switching fingerings on a note that is repeated. There's practically an innumerous number of technical studies such as tonguing, working the pinky fingers, and much, much more.


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 Re: really good studies needed!!!
Author: Bob Phillips 
Date:   2006-07-03 14:51

Start with the first Kroepsch book. They get more complex as you progress through them.

I've found it helpful/imperative to have some coaching on both the Kroepsch and the Rose 32. Fingering "tricks" are needed. Also, general advice on approaching the alternative fingerings appropriate for a given key signature --to have a better chance of a clean first read-through --before sitting down and penciling in your choice of fingering sequences.

Have you done the Baermann? All the scales, full range of the instrument.

Enjoy

Bob Phillips

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 Re: really good studies needed!!!
Author: Mark Charette 
Date:   2006-07-03 15:02

From "The Keepers" BBoard list ...

http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/read.html?f=20&i=193&t=193

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 Re: really good studies needed!!!
Author: LarryBocaner 2017
Date:   2006-07-03 15:57

Stark -- 24 Studies in All Tonalities. I use this work in conjunction with the Polatschek cited above with advanced students. The reason for using the two concurrently (usually) is that the Polatschek studies are excellent, but almost exclusively legato; the Stark, on the other hand, are great for building strong staccato skills. I use these two books after a student has completed Rose 40 and 32 and Baermann #4-5 (combined by David Hite in his Artistic Studies from the German School). After Stark/Polatschek maybe Jeanjean 18 Etudes. Then one can go exotic with Perrier, Uhl, Jettl, etc.

Incedentally, some years ago when the Vienna State Opera did a residency at the Kennedy Center, I met their retired bass clarinetist, Willi Kraus, who was "subbing" on the tour. He told me that he had been a student of Polatschek's "way back when". As a going away gift I gave him a copy of the Advanced Studies (of which he had never heard). Brought tears to his eyes!



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 Re: really good studies needed!!!
Author: Jack Kissinger 
Date:   2006-07-03 16:01

If you've already been through Vade Mecum, Jettel and Uhl, you are out there at the far edge. Besides the Polatschek, have you done Bitsch? Hamelin? How about Opperman's "Velocity Studies"? Or Voxman's "Classical Studies"?

I think your best bet would be to go to a large sheet music store and browse through their wall stock/file cabinets. You'll probably find something challenging and useful that.

Best regards,
jnk

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 Re: really good studies needed!!!
Author: D 
Date:   2006-07-03 16:40

I have had joy going to charity shops and finding old sheet music for about 50p! There always seems to be loads of violin music with totally evil jumps and slurs. Makes a change anyway, and worth a look if you are going past.

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 Re: really good studies needed!!!
Author: GBK 
Date:   2006-07-03 17:51

Bonade used the Rose 40 and Rose 32 as the foundation of his teaching. He said (and I'm paraphrasing) that those books contained 90% of the preparation one would need to be an orchestral player.

The order of his teaching syllabus was:

Rose 40
Rose 32
Rose-Rode 20 Grand Studies
Stark Arpeggios
Baermann IV
Baermann V
Cavallini 30 Caprices
Stark 24 Studies
Jeanjean 18 Etudes
Jeanjean 16 Etudes Moderne
Stark 24 Grand Virtuoso Studies (two books)
Capelle 20 Grandes Etudes (two books)
Perier 20 Etudes de Virtuosite
Perier 22 Etudes Modernes
Perier 30 Etudes d'Apres Bach, Paganini
Jeanjean Etudes Progressives et Melodiques (three books)



You will find that a number of teachers, both past and present, use(d) many of these same method books, in roughly the same order.

(The reason that Klose and Baermann III are not on the list, is because Bonade expected the student to have already known these studies before coming to him.)

That being said, Baermann III is something which I would recommend to "permanently leave on your music stand". Play out of it each and every day...GBK

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 Re: really good studies needed!!!
Author: willr13 
Date:   2006-07-04 10:56

thanks a lot everyone!! looks like I've got LOADS to practice over the summer now!! thanks.

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 Re: really good studies needed!!!
Author: GBK 
Date:   2006-07-04 15:24

If the Rose 32 is becoming a bit tedious and you want a different (and IMO more difficult) slant on the same studies, try playing the original oboe (and later saxophone) version of the "48 Etudes by Ferling, Op. 31." Find the Marcel Mule saxophone edition.

Aside from the more difficult key signatures of your favorite etudes which are in the clarinet version of Rose, you will also see different notes, different time signatures, wide skips, more interesting articulation and highly expressive ornamentation.

By comparison to the original "48 Etudes", the clarinet version of Rose 32 is almost sterile [wink] ...GBK

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 Re: really good studies needed!!!
Author: willr13 
Date:   2006-07-04 16:19

thanks very much, I'll let you know how i get on with them, while im typing i might aswell ask, have you heard or played the Bozza concerto? I recentley played Bozza's Bucolique and loved it and I'm tempted to learn his concerto!!?

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 Re: really good studies needed!!!
Author: Katfish 
Date:   2006-07-06 13:40

I have never played the Bozza Concerto, but if you liked Bucolique, you will like Quatorze Etudes de Mecanisme by Bozza. Also check out the Zitec etudes, and the 20th Century Clarinetist by Allen Sigel.

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