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Author: GBK
Date: 2006-06-30 16:49
I don't think that "better" is the correct word to use here.
Perhaps "preferred by some clarinetists" would be more appropriate ![[wink]](http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/smileys/smilie3.gif) ...GBK
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Author: Arnoldstang
Date: 2006-06-30 22:32
"preferred by some clarinetists" is so bland that it is meaningless to state this.
Freelance woodwind performer
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Author: FDF
Date: 2006-06-30 23:09
"preferred by some clarinetists" is so bland that it is meaningless to state this.
To me the statement means that many clarinetists purchase Chadash barrels because they have heard that they are better, rather than for any ascertainable intrinsic quality of the barrel.
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Author: Vytas
Date: 2006-06-30 23:12
It's not about better or worse. The reverse taper barrels (Chadash, Moennig etc.) are made to accommodate BIG BORE mouthpieces.
Vytas Krass
Professional clarinet technician
Custom clarinet mouthpiece maker
Former professional clarinet player
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Author: Morrigan
Date: 2006-06-30 23:21
They are? I didn't know that. I thought they just improved many things. For example I was trying out a Buffet clarinet once and it has a few problems. Put my Chadash on it and it was great! It's also worth noting that I play Leblancs and the Chadash doesn't really do much for them, in my experience. YMMV.
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Author: GBK
Date: 2006-06-30 23:30
Arnoldstang wrote:
> "preferred by some clarinetists" is so bland
> that it is meaningless to state this.
So, what percentage of clarinetists do use Chadash barrels?
20% ?
40% ?
10% ?
Whatever the number, it would still be fair to say "preferred by some clarinetists."
No one forced them to choose (or reject) playing a Chadash barrel. (AFAIK Chadash does not subsidize/sponsor performing artists)
If that particular barrel feels right and gives you positive qualities not previously found, then it was a wise decision.
However, there are MANY successful clarinetists (pro and otherwise) who have ultimately decided to use a stock barrel.
Again, "preferred by some" ...GBK
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Author: Fred
Date: 2006-07-01 15:48
I bought my first Chadash barrel when Greg Smith recommended it with my the mouthpiece I was getting from him. I had the option of keeping it or sending it back. It was clearly a better sounding setup on my R13 than the stock barrel - the difference was very obvious. So I kept it.
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Author: Arnoldstang
Date: 2006-07-01 16:01
I guess it is all percentages. With this in mind I would put money on the assertion that more professiional clarinetists use Chadash barrels in the US than stock barrels. Regarding the initial question....I'm sure Guy Chadash would have a long list of what makes his barrel BETTER than other barrels. Yes ....Better. Again with the numbers....if you take a Chadash barrel and then search the entire world for a better stock mouthpiece you would find one.....yes it would be better for you....maybe it sounds better or tunes better or just looks better. My point would be that in general the Chadash would be a better choice. If you consider the word "better" to be inappropriate, how would you use the word. In what situation would you say something is better than something else.. Give me an example of the correct use of better. I am in no way trying to insult you......just discussing. Respectfully
Freelance woodwind performer
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Author: GBK
Date: 2006-07-01 16:19
The barrel works in conjunction with your mouthpiece and both must be compatible with the bore, tuning, response, focus, etc... of the clarinet.
If the barrel, whether Chadash, Backun, Moennig, Segal, Fobes, or a plastic Bundy, achieves the positive qualities you are looking for, then it IS better ...GBK
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Author: tictactux ★2017
Date: 2006-07-01 16:39
If the barrel, whether Chadash, Backun, Moennig, Segal, Fobes, or a plastic Bundy
<stares at his plastic Bundy barrel>
<barrel blinks back at Ben>
Uhm, yes, where were we? Ah, les études...
--
Ben
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Author: clarnibass
Date: 2006-07-01 16:54
"I would put money on the assertion that more professiional clarinetists use Chadash barrels in the US than stock barrels."
I'm willing to bet the opposite (but since I don't think clarinetists in the USA have a more important opinion than anywhere else, I don't limit it to the USA, and I don't understand why you did).
Edit: As I wrote before, I'm not in Nahal Malkishua.
Post Edited (2006-07-01 16:58)
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Author: Arnoldstang
Date: 2006-07-01 17:53
OK....you're on! I will start a new post. Chadash vs stock mouthpieces professional clarinetists ..in US. I put limits on the survey....US or Canada. This is where I live and what I am familiar with. If you want to do a survey about clarinetists in the North Pole go ahead.
Freelance woodwind performer
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Author: Mark Charette
Date: 2006-07-01 18:18
Arnoldstang wrote:
> OK....you're on! I will start a new post. Chadash vs
> stock mouthpieces professional clarinetists ..in US. I
> put limits on the survey....US or Canada. This is where I
> live and what I am familiar with. If you want to do a survey
> about clarinetists in the North Pole go ahead.
Please do such a poll using your own email, not the BBoard.
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Author: clarnibass
Date: 2006-07-01 18:35
I'm not sure what you meant by a survey in the North Pole unless you meant to imply that the opinion of clarinetists where I am is unimportant.
Anyway, as I said, a survey with limits to USA and Canda is not interesting to me at all, plus what Mark said.... but good luck with it.
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Author: Vytas
Date: 2006-07-01 23:02
When Buffet R13 clarinets became more popular in the US majority of clarinet players liked their BIG BORE mouthpieces (Kaspar, Woodwind co. etc.) better than the smaller bore mouthpieces that are required for an R13. These BIG BORE mouthpieces created tuning problems on the R13. Moennig introduced reverse cone taper barrel to correct these tuning problems. Moennig used different reverse cone tapers for different set-ups. These and similar Chadash barrels are made for tuning purpose on vintage R13 in mind.
BTW. I'm using the original stock barrel on my 1955 R13
Vytas Krass
Professional clarinet technician
Custom clarinet mouthpiece maker
Former professional clarinet player
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Author: Ralph Katz
Date: 2006-07-02 01:44
Vytas,
What mouthpiece do you use? How would you characterize the bore?
Regards,
Ralph
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