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Author: clarnibass
Date: 2006-06-29 07:30
Hi
I have a new CD and the clarinet player plays this phrase A A E A E E A E A A E A E E - with altisimo E and A. The tempo is about 135-140 BPM. I tried to play this with the regular fingering where E and A are fingered the same and was not even close to playing it. Is it just practice? Is there a better fingering for this phrase?
The clarinetist on the CD is in my opinion one of the really best in the world right now, so no surprise he can play thigns I can't, but maybe there is some way to ease it.
Thanks.
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Author: Phurster
Date: 2006-06-29 10:53
Lightly detaching the notes may help. Try the passage slowly, with a firm reed, being aware of the subtle changes necessary in your oral cavity positions. In other words how you move the back of the tongue. The A might be "tricked"into speaking cleanly with the addition of the C# (right or left hand ) key.
The E could also be played as an overblown G (above the stave). The LH G# key can be added in this instance but it has the effect of making the pitch a little sharp.
Good luck.
Chris
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Author: Paul Aviles
Date: 2006-06-29 11:35
Is that 16ths or less "brilliant?"
Play E with register and A key, then go to the A as an overblown E. If they are 16ths, it is a piece of cake at 120 per minute.
..........Paul Aviles
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Author: Tom Piercy
Date: 2006-06-29 12:37
You can also try:
The E using the "regular" fingering of
E = TR 0XX - 000 Eb
and for the A, ONLY switching the RH Eb key to LH C key for the A:
A = TR 0XX -000 C.
Since you are not changing your Thumb or Register key and not changing your LH 2nd and 3rd finger, you only have to think of moving your RH E to your LH C keys. This can be done quiete quickly and the A and E should pop right out effortlessly.
Tom Piercy
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Author: pmgoff78
Date: 2006-06-29 12:53
I, personally, would play the E with the A Key and then play the A with the "regular" fingering: Thumb, Register Key, 1,2,3.
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Author: GBK
Date: 2006-06-29 20:06
Try this:
Play the E6 as an overblown throat Bb fingering with the right pinky Ab/Eb key:
R + A key o o o / o o o (Ab/Eb)
Play the A6:
R (no thumb) o o o / x x o (Ab/Eb)
...GBK
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Author: Paul Aviles
Date: 2006-06-29 21:47
GBK,
Sorry, this is what I was trying to say awkwardly. To me the "x"s and "o"s look like "hugs and kisses."
............Paul Aviles
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Author: clarnibass
Date: 2006-06-30 14:11
Thanks, I will try your suggestions.
By receiving fingering suggestions, am I correct to assume the regular fingering for E and overblow the A is bad in this case?
Yes I forgot to say the notes are 16ths at about 135 BPM.
Liqurice - The CD is by singer and cabrette (a small bagpipe) player Andre Ricros, and the clarinet player on it is Louis Sclavis.
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Author: pmgoff78
Date: 2006-06-30 14:25
Overblowing throat Bb will result in Altissimo F on some horns. Beware your horn's tendencies.
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Author: GBK
Date: 2006-06-30 15:59
pmgoff78 wrote:
> Overblowing throat Bb will result in Altissimo F on some horns.
Not true...
Unless you are using an incorrect VERY short barrel, this will not happen.
On 99.9% of clarinets, overblowing a throat Bb will result in an E6.
In fact, the resulting E6 is almost always LOW in pitch.
Then again, perhaps you know something that Ridenour, Opperman, Sim (and I) don't know ...GBK
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Author: Paul Aviles
Date: 2006-07-01 00:42
As for the pitch, you may add the last two side keys to bring up the overblown E6. I also use them for C#, D, and Eb.
So many alternates, so little time.
..............Paul Aviles
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Author: clarinetist04
Date: 2006-07-02 02:47
"In fact, the resulting E6 is almost always LOW in pitch.
Then again, perhaps you know something that Ridenour, Opperman, Sim (and I) don't know ...GBK"
On my horn, overblowing a Bb gives me an F# (I think).
Per the question, I was taught an excercise where you play the E and A successively using the E and overblown E fingerings. The objective is not to change the embouchure, that is a typical error among some students. Furthermore, I have found that it often works on my horn to play the E as:
o x x o o o (Eb/Ab)
and the A, when having to go from E to A, as:
o x x o o o (C#/F#)
I've used that successfully before. Good luck.
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Author: clarinetmaniac101
Date: 2006-07-02 05:52
I agree with Clarinetist04 on the fingering they suggested..it really helps when you are doing a slur on an A major Arpeggio and it comes out REALLY easy and it doesn't squeak coming back from the A to the E...and the thing is don't tence up and it will come out, a steady air flow will do the trick.
Good luck.
Rashad
*clarinet
Post Edited (2006-07-02 05:54)
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