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Author: missclarinetist
Date: 2006-06-26 14:14
Hi, I'm currently a music performance minor, and would someday love to play in orchestra. Is a degree necessary to play in a pro orchestra? I have played the clarinet for ten years, and a total of six years in various orchestras. I have orchestra experience with both youth symphonies and university orchestras. Do I have a chance to play for a pro even though I don't major in music?
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Author: William
Date: 2006-06-26 15:37
Talent is the only requirement for playing at the professional level. It makes no difference what your degree is in--music performance or resturnant management--if you can't play your instrument, you will not win the audition. Playing experiance is much more valuable and the more you get, the better. But a degree in and of itself is of no value.
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Author: Ralph G
Date: 2006-06-26 18:21
But that's not to say a music degree prevents you from a career in restaurant management.
Seriously, my local symphony has a few players who are stock brokers and whatnot; they happen to be good enough musicians to get the gig.
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Author: TonkaToy
Date: 2006-06-26 19:29
The same thing a music major can do.
"You want fries with that"?
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Author: diz
Date: 2006-06-26 22:16
The Sydney Symphony used to have a prerequisite: degree in music (performance) before you'd be considered for audition. I don't necessarily think this is bad or good, but it was their requirement. Must check to see if this is still the case.
I'd be interested to learn if any major US orchestras have such requirements
Without music, the world would be grey, very grey.
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Author: Synonymous Botch
Date: 2006-06-27 13:52
That sort of requirement makes certain that the orchestral members who teach have a source of second income.
Given the number of positions, and the flood of applicants, it may be fruitful to develop outside (or peripheral) interests while at university.
The idea is to find a way to feed yourself while you do what you love most...
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Author: allencole
Date: 2006-06-27 15:48
Having a music degree has obvious advantages when you're trying to simply GET an audition through the flood of resumes submitted, but don't let that stop you from studying and practicing.
Remember that you could still audition for the sub list, and get a foot in the door that way--or work your way up through better and better community groups.
Here in Richmond, our local TV weatherman is on the symphony sublist--although he does have a masters in music.
It seems to me that your toughest job is to stay dedicated to your playing while pursuing your 'real' career. But having a reliable income can really help you to hang in there. You might also find--or create--some very satisfying amateur activity with folks who are in the same situation as you.
Allen Cole
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Author: johnsonfromwisconsin
Date: 2006-06-27 22:16
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what can a music minor do?
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Give you a major to fall back on.
-JfW
Post Edited (2006-06-27 22:16)
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Author: FDF
Date: 2006-06-27 23:15
"Do I have a chance to play for a pro even though I don't major in music?"
Miss Clarinetist, the answer to your question is yes, but don't believe, as some would have you, that a degree is of "no value."
Best of luck in your pursuits.
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Author: Sean.Perrin
Date: 2006-06-28 21:13
Minors often can do the same types of things as adults, but usually at a lower level as they may not be able to physically hold the instrument until they are older. They also can't play in bars and other places that don't permit minors, unless you are in England.
;)
Founder and host of the Clarineat Podcast: http://www.clarineat.com
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Author: bravissima82
Date: 2006-07-18 14:55
I'm deleting my post because it sounded really rude.
Post Edited (2006-07-23 00:30)
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Author: Mark Charette
Date: 2006-07-18 15:39
bravissima82 wrote:
> no offense, but if you weren't a good enough clarinet player to
> be a music major, then why do you think you are good enough to
> be a professional clarinetist?
No offense, but what does a university major have to do with being a professional musician? Why do you assume that an excellent musician must major in music?
You might want to look around to see what people studied and majored in - BEFORE they ended up with a professional career. Not all were music majors by a long shot.
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Author: Danny Boy
Date: 2006-07-18 17:39
Absolutely Mark...just off the top of my head, the second clarinet in the LSO has a medical (or similar) degree.
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Author: Mark Charette
Date: 2006-07-18 17:41
Danny Boy wrote:
> Absolutely Mark...just off the top of my head, the second
> clarinet in the LSO has a medical (or similar) degree.
Jonathan Cohler & Antony Pay have advanced Mathematics degrees (though Tony also studied at the RAM).
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Author: Steve Epstein
Date: 2006-07-18 21:20
"What can a music minor do?"
Play music in minor keys.
Sorry, I could not resist.
Steve Epstein
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Author: Dan Oberlin ★2017
Date: 2006-07-19 11:33
Actually Jonathan Cohler has an undergraduate physics degree.
Tony Pay's mathematics study did not result in an "advanced
degree", though the quality of his mathematical education would
probably merit such a degree at many American institutions.
Additionally, Richard Stoltzman did an undergraduate double major
in music and math.
D.O.
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Author: Mark Charette
Date: 2006-07-19 12:52
Dan Oberlin wrote:
> Actually Jonathan Cohler has an undergraduate physics degree.
> Tony Pay's mathematics study did not result in an "advanced
> degree", though the quality of his mathematical education would
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> probably merit such a degree at many American institutions.
You are most certainly correct; my mistake.
> Additionally, Richard Stoltzman did an undergraduate double
> major
> in music and math.
That I didn't know.
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