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 Hard Rubber Aging
Author: tictactux 2017
Date:   2006-06-03 20:34

In a recently acquired clarinet's case I found a 5RV Lyre mouthpiece. I have no idea since when this mpc is on the market, but it looks really old; it basically is green except where the ligature has been - there it's black.
I know that hard rubber can be "greened" by washing it in hot water, but that specimen didn't look as if it were even swabbed let alone washed.

How long will an average hard rubber mouthpiece take (under presumably average usage conditions) to turn green? Weeks? Months? Years?
How do I make it black again? (I can't stand camouflage clothes either, and I don't plan to play in an ambush, so...)

--
Ben

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 Re: Hard Rubber Aging
Author: Gandalfe 
Date:   2006-06-03 21:40

I've had pieces that have greened in as little as five years, but then I don't know how long they were in the for sale bin either. I'd luv to find a cure for greenies, but to date the only fix I know of is to get a new one. :o(

Jim and Suzy

Pacifica Big Band
Seattle, Washington

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 Re: Hard Rubber Aging
Author: Hank Lehrer 
Date:   2006-06-03 22:29

Hi,

Ah, the patina... We have talked about this several times and a Search using green mouthpiece will uncover a whole lot of threads for you to review. There are some pretty extensive answers available.

Happy hunting!

HRL

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 Re: Hard Rubber Aging
Author: Gandalfe 
Date:   2006-06-04 17:37

This is a good start: http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/read.html?f=1&i=74036&t=73912

Jim and Suzy

Pacifica Big Band
Seattle, Washington

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 Re: Hard Rubber Aging
Author: Synonymous Botch 
Date:   2006-06-04 19:06

The worst part in "The Greening of the Beak" is that old man smell...

I once had someone attempt to trade a mouthpiece with me; his offering could be smelled before the package was opened.

FYI - The 5RV was pretty commonly available; if you like the way it plays, a replacement (in original black) should be cheap.

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 Re: Hard Rubber Aging
Author: tictactux 2017
Date:   2006-06-04 23:29

Hmm. Maybe I wasn't extremely clear with my question - I just wonder how long it takes a mouthpiece to turn green.

The restoration of the black colour was only a throw-in question - I understand it's neither that easy nor that necessary.

As per the sound...well, I still like my Hite Premiere better.

--
Ben

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 Re: Hard Rubber Aging
Author: Cuisleannach 
Date:   2006-06-05 05:42

The question I have concerns the new Arioso instruments that are also made (apparently) of hard rubber...are they destined to turn green, too?

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 Re: Hard Rubber Aging
Author: BobD 
Date:   2006-06-05 14:51

The answer to the original question is "it all depends".....on several variables not usually documented.

Bob Draznik

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