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 Bach/ Baroque Music for Clarinet
Author: wjk 
Date:   2004-04-27 13:29

Can anyone recommend any Bach/ Baroque music for clarinet?
Thanks!

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 Re: Bach/ Baroque Music for Clarinet
Author: lycfmtkl 
Date:   2004-04-27 15:10

As far as I know, J.S. Bach had never written music for clarinet. Although the first clarinet was made in 1700 and J.S. Bach died in about 1750.

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 Re: Bach/ Baroque Music for Clarinet
Author: Tom J. 
Date:   2004-04-27 18:48

The Bach Cello Suites transcribed for solo clarinet by G. Corroyez pub. Billaudot, and the Violin Suites transcribed by Delecluse pub. Leduc may still be available.

Other works I love to transpose that are well suited to the clarinet are the Bach A minor Violin Concerto (A clar. or Bb clar.), Telemann Oboe d'Amore concerto (A clar.), and Bach B minor Flute Suite (A clar.).



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 Re: Bach/ Baroque Music for Clarinet
Author: allencole 
Date:   2004-04-29 09:04

Rubank has a collection of unaccompanied pieces for clarinet. I think it's all or mostly Bach.

Allen Cole

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 Re: Bach/ Baroque Music for Clarinet
Author: AB 
Date:   2004-04-30 19:41

The Tartini Concertino, arranged for clarinet from violin by Gordon Jacob, is a nice Baroque piece.

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 Re: Bach/ Baroque Music for Clarinet
Author: Hank Lehrer 
Date:   2006-05-27 16:33

Hi,

I have elevated this thread in hopes of getting some information on a little project I am embarking on. I've begun to get very active in a local Lutheran church's music program. While there are the traditional vocal ensembles, we also have The Band which plays during services many times per year.

The basic membership in The Band is keyboard (organ and acoustic), bass, drums, trombone, trumpet, and me doing all the woodwinds. The keyboard player (Eric) is the Driector of Music, a fine singer, and a "drop-dead" jazz player who works lots of gigs in the area. As you can imagine, The Band can get pretty far out at times as all the players are excellent legit as well as jazz players.

Eric and I are plowing some new ground in using keyboard and woodwinds for prelude and offertory/communion pieces. While there are lots of things we can do, I have taken a great interest in transcribing numerous Bach canatatas and hymns for he and I. There is a great deal of choral music with such beautiful melodies so I have is no shortage of material.

I begin with the organ music and then re-write or transcribe the lead lines and some of the counter melodies for me on clarinet or sax to get a playable piece. While this is pretty easy to do with Finale, I make few if any changes in the musical structure. Having a degree in music and a lot of playing experience also helps as well. Eric pretty much knows what's needed for his part as well.

My quest for information centers on:
1. Is anyone else doing anything like this?
2. Are there any copyright pitfalls lurking out there?
3. I may want to expand these transcriptions to include others in The Band. Will this also open me up for copyright problems?

Thanks for the input.

HRL

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 Re: Bach/ Baroque Music for Clarinet
Author: Chris P 
Date:   2006-05-27 16:54

If you have an A clarinet, you might like to try the Bach D Major Concerto for Oboe d'amore - there is no BWV number I can find, but it's the Kunzelmann edition, GM 921.

If you want to have a listen to it, then I recommend the Heinz Holliger recording with the Camerata Bern (Philips 4544502) - both JS and CPE bach oboe d'amore/oboe concertos on this disc. This bloke knows what he's doing!

Also the Boosey&Hawkes edition of the Cimarosa oboe concerto has an additional solo part written out in Bb so that can be done on clarinet (or soprano sax!).

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 Re: Bach/ Baroque Music for Clarinet
Author: Meri 
Date:   2006-05-27 17:43

There's a book, currently out of print, but may be available at a university music library called Baroque music for clarinet, published by Boosey and Hawkes. There's a great Adagio and Allegro by Handel in there, which is on the current Grade 8 RCM list.

The Solos for the Clarinet Player ed. A. Christmann (sp?) has several Baroque arrangements, including a really good Bach one, which I have performed and recorded.

Cathedral Press also publishes Sacred music for Clarinet Solo, which has three or four Baroque numbers, two by Bach (My Heart Ever Faithful and Jesu, Joy of Man's Desiring), the first which I have performed in church services and in a concert recently. Very useful book if you perform for church services.

"There is a difference between being flat and sounding in tune, and being in tune but sounding flat. The first I can live with; the second I cannot."

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 Re: Bach/ Baroque Music for Clarinet
Author: tetiana 
Date:   2006-05-27 18:42

This is in reply to the message posted by Hank Lehrer.

Your project sounds absolutely wonderful and I would love to get a copy of your transcriptions for keyboard/clarinet.

As to your questions regarding copyright - you really ought to double check this with a lawyer practising in your jurisdiction (i.e. the U.S.) Having said that, I cannot really imagine that you would be infringing copyright. Copyright attaches to original works for a period of years following the death of the composer (death + 50 (Canada), or death + 75 (I think this includes the U.S.), perhaps longer in some other countries, but I can't imagine one that will be death + 256!).

Copyright also attaches to arrangements or editions (same rule), so if you are using a really old score, even copying it would not constitute an infringement. But what you are doing is not copying it, rather using it as a template or inspiration to create your own, and original, arrangement - which incidentally.. will be protected by copyright! And others wanting to use it or copy it will need your permission (free or otherwise). This brings me back to what I asked at the beginning of this post - I would love to get a copy of your transcriptions.

tetiana

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 Re: Bach/ Baroque Music for Clarinet
Author: Hank Lehrer 
Date:   2006-05-28 02:17

Tetiana,

I sent you an email. Your comemnts capture the essence of my dilemma and offer some terrific answers.

HRL



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 Re: Bach/ Baroque Music for Clarinet
Author: Gardini 
Date:   2006-05-30 19:15

The copyright laws are amazingly complicated. I am not a lawyer but I have attended a few good “copyright for artists” workshops. If the music you are transcribing is from music that is currently copyright protected, then transcribing or transposing could “probably” be considered an infringement.

On the other hand, no publishing company in their right mind would go after an artist transposing music for a church service. At worst they would tell you to stop and unless you have a team of lawyers working for you and a very deep pocket I would take their request seriously. If you were publishing the music for sale it might be a different story.

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 Re: Bach/ Baroque Music for Clarinet
Author: Mark Charette 
Date:   2006-05-30 19:36

Gardini wrote:

> On the other hand, no publishing company in their right mind
> would go after an artist transposing music for a church
> service.

Then there are a lot of publishing companies out of their mind ...

Much copyright law was written because of church music being "borrowed" and transposed ( not very long after the Statute of Queen Anne, 1710, there were a number of cases of church music copyrights that set the precedents for the mess we have today )

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 Re: Bach/ Baroque Music for Clarinet
Author: diz 
Date:   2006-05-31 05:59

Copyright and baroque music.

There is NO copyright on baroque music. Full stop. There is, however, copyright on music publishing houses' editions of baroque music.

As to church music and being sued, I'm totally with Mark on that ... there have been several instances in Australia where churches have been taken to the cleaners for having photocopied music, altered music.

Without music, the world would be grey, very grey.

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