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Author: sylvelle
Date: 2006-05-22 04:43
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Hi
Would like to know how to play these sequences of notes:
When you have C-Eb-B-C-Eb-B-C
See attached.
It looks to me that the only solution is to slip my little finger of my left hand from the B key to the C key...
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Author: Ryan25
Date: 2006-05-22 04:47
Your best bet is to slide your right finger from the e -flat to the B natural. It really is not as hard as it sounds. Work on it slow and you will have it. This is how I would do it.
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Author: Paul Aviles
Date: 2006-05-22 08:30
Much easier to slide from C to Eb on the right. Pretend you have rollers as there are on the German horn.
...............Paul Aviles
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Author: DezzaG
Date: 2006-05-22 08:57
Looks like the only option is what sylvelle thought. Switch from Left Hand B to C is much much easier than right Eflat to B.
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Author: DezzaG
Date: 2006-05-22 08:58
And I don't agree that right C to Eflat is easier than Left B to C!
Post Edited (2006-05-22 11:26)
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Author: Paul Aviles
Date: 2006-05-22 09:03
Correction.........right C to Eb.........the pinky just slides up.
.............Paul Aviles
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Author: DezzaG
Date: 2006-05-22 11:23
But it is not easy to just slide it, I played the excerpt both ways and it is easier to slide your left finger off the B onto the C as it can fall off. It is harder to slide up using your right little finger.
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Author: Don Berger
Date: 2006-05-22 13:50
How about a good word for the "alternate Eb lever"? When I find myself in a cross fingering dilema with a 17/6 clarinet, I go to my trusty Penzel Mueller or Selmer Full Boehms [20/7] to have the Eb duplicated and perhaps other helpful fingerings made available. Lessers such as 19/7 and other "combos" [with the Eb] may be found and obtained. Luck, Don
Thanx, Mark, Don
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Author: William
Date: 2006-05-22 14:08
Or you could just let your associate/stand partner play it as a "learning experiance".
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Author: Paul Aviles
Date: 2006-05-23 00:34
DezzaG
I have to admit you have me stumped by the sliding down off the left B to alternate C. This seems a perilous jump to me. Perhaps I owe my prejudice to years on the Oehler system where there is no left alternate C. What does your teacher say about this slide on the left?
And to Don,
For those of us who are used to sliding (or doubling up on a key for some E major/C#minor stuff) the left Eb lever really just gets in the way.
.............Paul Aviles
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Author: sfalexi
Date: 2006-05-23 01:58
Without the alternate Eb lever, I'd slide my right pinky from a C up to the Eb lever. The left hand slide from a B to a C, while yes it's perilous, can be done with practice.
Me personally? Thanks to the leblanc opus, I just use my alternate Eb lever!
Alexi
PS - I can steer clear of that Eb lever ALL the time. Never once has it gotten in the way. Even when sliding around it if I'm used to sliding. It's all just a matter of a little practice. Just like you'd practice to get used to using it when necessary, your DAILY practice will get you used to navigating around it.
US Army Japan Band
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Author: genekeyes ★2017
Date: 2006-05-23 02:00
how about switching from a RH C to a LH C just befor the Eb (depending on tempo)
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Author: Katrina
Date: 2006-05-23 04:07
Actually this excerpt brings up an interesting point relating to various slides:
When the note to which one could slide is tongued (articulated), as is the C in this example, I find it much easier. Slurring and sliding together can be trickier. If you also practice this passage "fingers ahead" then you can probably learn to play it quite rapidly.
Katrina
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Author: DezzaG
Date: 2006-05-23 05:51
Paul I am the Teacher!
I have 50 private students(clar and sax) and am active as concertmaster in my local Concert Band(as well as the odd paying performances that turn up in my little city).
Trust me when I say that for ME it is much easier to do the left and not the right slide. Also as a teacher I instruct my students never to slide unless really necessary.
I will try it with a few students and see what they come up with.
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Author: Paul Aviles
Date: 2006-05-23 14:40
DezzaG,
Sorry, no disrespect intended! I've been around for awhile as well and just never ran into that one before........it may solve some of my age old problems. I'll keep an eye out for circumstances where that can be used.
.......thanks,
..................Paul Aviles
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Author: Dee
Date: 2006-05-24 02:41
In fast passages, I'd do the C to Eb slide.
The Rubank Advanced Method books both have sections that drill the student on many combinations of slided. The key is repetitive practice. Start out slow and play the phrase over and over, gradually increasing the tempo.
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Author: susieray
Date: 2006-05-24 02:48
I tried it both ways, and the C to Eb slide works fine for me too. Actually the B to C drop works almost as well, but I prefer the slide.
~Sue
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Author: sylvelle
Date: 2006-05-24 02:58
Hi all
Well it looks to me that if you don't have an Eb lever like some lucky ones have, there is no alternative fingering to do this passage, unless we slide from one key to another.
Thanks for all your commentaries, I'll try and see what suite me better, to slide on the left or on the right...
I thought somehow there was a "special" fingering to do one note so that the passage could play better.
Thanks all!
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Author: Hank Lehrer
Date: 2006-05-24 03:34
Hi,
That's a really great little passage to try all of the things above. The use of the RH C to LH C is a neat little trick I'd forgotten about. However, it might be fun for those of us that teach to have several versions of that phrase fingered multiple ways.
Sylvelle, what's it from?
HRL
PS I had a tough eefer part one time in 5#s that had to have a slide in it to make it work (I wish I had rememebred the RH to LH switch on the same note).
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Author: clarnibass
Date: 2006-05-24 03:57
OK I just just tried it, and there are two ways that worked best. Either slide from B to C on the left as some suggested, or move during a note (probably the C) from right to left as I already suggested above (if it is not very fast). Both ways are very easy, for me much easier than using the extra left Eb/Ab key (which I have on one clarinet).
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Author: John Scorgie
Date: 2006-05-24 22:34
I was taught to oil the end of my pinky(s) by rubbing on a side of my nose to make these slides easier.
A few of the old Boehm clarinets had rollers in the top two RH pinkie keys, similar to an Albert clarinet or a saxophone.
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Author: Tyler
Date: 2006-05-25 03:14
I think I would tend to favor the Eb to B slide. As long as it doesn't make too loud of a key 'clink'.
-Tyler
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Author: Paquito
Date: 2006-05-25 18:27
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According to me, the best and easiest way is doing all B with the left hand key and all C to Eb shoul be done by sliding the little right finger from C to Eb key. (the opposite from Eb to C wuold be more difficult !)
With some practice, it is possible.
see att file
Slon moi, le si doit etre fait a partir de la clé de la main gauche alors que le do et mi bemol devraient etre fait en glissant le petit doigt du do au mi bemol avec les clés de la main gauche. (par contre dans une autre circonstence, il serait plus difficile de faire du mi bemol au do !)
voir attachement.
Avec un peu de pratique, la liaison est possible.
Bonne repete !
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