Woodwind.OrgThe Clarinet BBoardThe C4 standard

 
  BBoard Equipment Study Resources Music General    
 
 New Topic  |  Go to Top  |  Go to Topic  |  Search  |  Help/Rules  |  Smileys/Notes  |  Log In   Newer Topic  |  Older Topic 
 Problem with left hand 12ths
Author: Jae 
Date:   2006-05-05 23:23

Hey everyone,

I'm having trouble keeping my left hand 12ths in tune. When my instrument is cold, my scale is somewhat even. But as I warm up, my tone gets sharper so I pull out. After doing so, I find that my throat tones all the way down to left hand C is about 10-15 cents flat, while my left hand upper notes from G up to C are 10-15 cents sharp. Is this a common problem and is there any way to alleviate it through technique or repair? My setup is a Bb Buffet Festival, Greg Smith Chicago Kaspar, and 3.5 V12 reeds. I appreciate any of your advice.



Reply To Message
 
 Re: Problem with left hand 12ths
Author: sfalexi 
Date:   2006-05-05 23:33

Aftermarket barrels often boast about bringing the 12ths closer in tune (the left hand twelfths). From what I read on this board and hear in RL, it's common, and you can look to aftermarket barrels as a possible solution. (Moenigg barrels, chadash, walter grabner, alseg, etc. etc.)

Alexi

US Army Japan Band

Reply To Message
 
 Re: Problem with left hand 12ths
Author: kenb 
Date:   2006-05-06 00:52

Before you go down the after-market barrel trail have another good player (your teacher??) test your set-up.

The problem could be the equipment or, with respect, you. I have played Buffet Festivals extensively; the intonation problems you describe are not characteristic of this model.

Reply To Message
 
 Re: Problem with left hand 12ths
Author: Vytas 
Date:   2006-05-06 03:41

Larger bore mouthpieces similar to the design of Frank Kaspar would require the reverse cone tapered barrel to deal with the issues you describe. I think that you should definitely contact Greg Smith.

Vytas Krass
Professional clarinet technician
Custom clarinet mouthpiece maker
Former professional clarinet player




Reply To Message
 
 Re: Problem with left hand 12ths
Author: Bob Phillips 
Date:   2006-05-06 05:30

On my Buffet, its the lower 12ths that are wide; and changing barrels had no effect on the tuning of the instrument.

Bob Phillips

Reply To Message
 
 Re: Problem with left hand 12ths
Author: Aures22 
Date:   2006-05-06 10:05

I have found that the proper tuning ring(s) to fill in the gap caused by pulling out improves the tuning of the 12th around 10-15 cents from the top to bottom. And it also subjectively improves the sound quality and response of the instrument. I use them for both the upper and middle joint of the instrument for this reason. I bought them from Selmer USA and Muncy Winds.

However, this may not work with your setup, but give it a try. Make sure the inner diameter of the tuning ring does not protude into the bore and that you can see no tuning ring when you view through the bore. You want the bore to be smooth.

Hope that helps.

Reply To Message
 Avail. Forums  |  Threaded View   Newer Topic  |  Older Topic 


 Avail. Forums  |  Need a Login? Register Here 
 User Login
 User Name:
 Password:
 Remember my login:
   
 Forgot Your Password?
Enter your email address or user name below and a new password will be sent to the email address associated with your profile.
Search Woodwind.Org

Sheet Music Plus Featured Sale

The Clarinet Pages
For Sale
Put your ads for items you'd like to sell here. Free! Please, no more than two at a time - ads removed after two weeks.

 
     Copyright © Woodwind.Org, Inc. All Rights Reserved    Privacy Policy    Contact charette@woodwind.org