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 pesky passage
Author: tictactux 2017
Date:   2006-04-22 16:05

I came upon a fast passage that reads (clarion) d#-b-c#-d#. Any trick for people with no LH eb lever? A mid-note change from RH c# to LH c# sort of works, but it's really awkward.

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Ben

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 Re: pesky passage
Author: Ryan25 
Date:   2006-04-22 16:11

"I came upon a fast passage that reads (clarion) d#-b-c#-d#. Any trick for people with no LH eb lever? A mid-note change from RH c# to LH c# sort of works, but it's really awkward."

I think I would slide from left hand b to left hand c# which really is not that hard to do.

Good luck:)



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 Re: pesky passage
Author: tictactux 2017
Date:   2006-04-22 16:22

Ryan,

I forgot to mention that I tried that too. But with sliding I haven't got that much of control - my pinky is not very good at sideways motions. I now start to understand what roller keys are really good for.
But I think I'll pursue that method. Thanks for the suggestion.

--
Ben

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 Re: pesky passage
Author: pmgoff78 
Date:   2006-04-22 16:29

I would slide from the first D# to the B.

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 Re: pesky passage
Author: Merlin 
Date:   2006-04-22 16:33

I concur with sliding LH B to C#.



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 Re: pesky passage
Author: Ryan25 
Date:   2006-04-22 16:53

tictactux,
I agree that sliding can be a bit akward. I think it is just another thing we must all add to are playing because these problems do come up. Just rub your finger on your nose or forehead and s
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Happy practicing



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 Re: pesky passage
Author: clarnibass 
Date:   2006-04-22 16:58

What tempo and rhythm is this?

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 Re: pesky passage
Author: GBK 
Date:   2006-04-22 17:00

Play it on the A clarinet [wink]

E-C-D-E


...GBK

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 Re: pesky passage
Author: tictactux 2017
Date:   2006-04-22 17:08

What tempo and rhythm is this?
4/4, allegro, eights. Piece of cake for a pro, I guess.

--
Ben

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 Re: pesky passage
Author: pmgoff78 
Date:   2006-04-22 17:13

GBK -- Very smart!

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 Re: pesky passage
Author: sfalexi 
Date:   2006-04-22 18:45

Quote:

Play it on the A clarinet

There's always one guy . . . . . . . . . .



Slide away, my friend. Slide away.

Alexi - who is learning to love his alt Eb lever . . . ;)

US Army Japan Band

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 Re: pesky passage
Author: pewd 
Date:   2006-04-22 20:10

>I would slide from the first D# to the B.

say what?

that wont work.

- Paul Dods
Dallas, Texas

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 Re: pesky passage
Author: Sean.Perrin 
Date:   2006-04-22 20:39

I would purchase a new clarinet with the extra key.

Founder and host of the Clarineat Podcast: http://www.clarineat.com

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 Re: pesky passage
Author: ken 
Date:   2006-04-22 23:41

I take it quick-slamming the RH D# pinkie down to the lower RH B nat, alternating to the LH C# then back to the RH D# is too awkward? It shouldn't be. Without a left side articulated key you have to "improvise" a same-side slide (right or left side) then alternate left to right. v/r Ken

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 Re: pesky passage
Author: Dee 
Date:   2006-04-22 23:58

The Rubank Advanced method books have sets of exercises for these types of passages. Once you play them over and over and over and over and faster and faster and faster and faster, you will be able to slide with a fair degree of facility.

I also agree that the most straightforward way is to slide from the B natural to the C# in the left hand.

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 Re: pesky passage
Author: Morrigan 
Date:   2006-04-23 00:02

Is it all slurred? Can you sneakily articulate somewhere? Is this in an orchestral or solo passage? If orchestral, you could easily fake it.



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 Re: pesky passage
Author: tictactux 2017
Date:   2006-04-23 09:21

Fortunately it isn't all slurred. I'll try a bit more staccato (it's only the 3rd voice which at this passage isn't playing 'solo') so I'll have enough time to shoo my pinkies around. "Faking" is out of the question as I want to learn something. "Bending the score a bit" is fine with me, however.  ;)

--
Ben

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 Re: pesky passage
Author: EEBaum 
Date:   2006-04-23 16:04

Is it just you or a section on the part? If more than one clarinet is playing it, you could each drop one note.

-Alex
www.mostlydifferent.com

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 Re: pesky passage
Author: tictactux 2017
Date:   2006-04-23 16:16

Is it just you or a section on the part?
Difficult if an exam board is listening. ;)

(Before you come to conclusions - my teacher is having his final exam and I am one of the lucky people to demonstrate his teaching skills to the board)

--
Ben

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 Re: pesky passage
Author: sfalexi 
Date:   2006-04-23 20:22

I'd say your best option is still to left hand slide from the C# to the B lever. Another option would be to VERY quickly replace one pinky with another. In this instance, play the left hand C# and VERY quickly lift your right finger off the D# (while still holding the left hand C#) and place it on the RIGHT C# key. Which will free up the left pinky for the B. (don't know if it's possible without seeing your finger speed and the tempo of the music, but it might be.)

I've used this method successfully a few times when I didn't feel comfortable sliding (also, when I forget my alternate fingerings and don't notice that Eb coming up after a C . . . I pinky flip)

Alexi

US Army Japan Band

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 Re: pesky passage
Author: Hiroshi 
Date:   2006-04-23 20:34

This comes from the clarinet keyworks. Awkwardness of an amateur is a charm to your audience. Enjoy it.

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 Re: pesky passage
Author: Tony Pay 2017
Date:   2006-04-23 20:54

pewd wrote:

>>> I would slide from the first D# to the B.>>>

>> say what? that wont work.>>

Sure will -- I can do it either way. It all depends on what you find easy, and what's appropriate to the passage.

Sliding ain't that hard. Watch a bassoon player sometime. You might have your world expanded.

Sliding is essential on a period clarinet, though we sometimes find it best to play the C# with the right THUMB, as in the C clarinet solo in the second movement of the Beethoven violin concerto.

Tony

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 Re: pesky passage
Author: David Peacham 
Date:   2006-04-23 21:16

Ben - you say you are learning this so your teacher can demonstrate his teaching skills.........so why not ask HIS advice how to play it?

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 Re: pesky passage
Author: tictactux 2017
Date:   2006-04-23 22:30

Ben - you say you are learning this so your teacher can demonstrate his teaching skills.........so why not ask HIS advice how to play it?

I sure will. But next lesson is Friday and I'd like to get my piece ready by then.

--
Ben

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 Re: pesky passage
Author: Kchui999 
Date:   2006-04-24 03:03

try using the middle of your RH pinky to hit the C#, and then hit the last D# with the tip of your RH pinky.

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 Re: pesky passage
Author: Gobboboy 
Date:   2006-04-24 17:10

1. Stick ur pinky in ur ear

2. Wax up

3. SLIDE!!!

4. Bow

5. Wash hands

G

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