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Author: Sara
Date: 2000-05-08 02:17
This past saturday, I went to acolo ensemble fest to play this piece, stamizt concerto 3 and I played it pretty well for the judge, with the few minor anxiety attack, I thought it was a pretty good preformance. When I finished, the judge spent like the next 45 minutes dissing everything that was even close to not bieng perfect. I mean it was to the point where I was near tears when I walked out of that room. Then he ended up giving me a superior rating. Why so judges just decide to do that, I mean when you work so hard on something and you do your best preformance, why don't judges tell you anything good, I mean this was the first timetoo. I got aperfect score on technique in everything for Region and all state auditions. And this guy gave me a C-. well I have to end this now, but I just can't get over how mean he was!
Sara
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Author: Mark Charette, Webmaster
Date: 2000-05-08 02:33
Sara,
Critiquing is not "dissing". Don't take it so hard. Listen to what they say, and use it if applicable. You're being judged on a pretty hard piece.
Go over to the Study section here and browse through the notes on the Nielsen concerto. There's hundreds of notes on the sections - each could be brought up by a judge.
If a judge spends a long time discussing the music and your performance with you - that's _good_!!!! It means he/she felt it was worth talking to you because you'd benefit from the instructions. If you weren't good they wouldn't waste their time.
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Author: Amber
Date: 2000-05-08 03:42
I agree with you. Most judges are really brutal when it comes to critiquing! I went to a few during my first 3 years. It was always about the bad. I knew to expect criticism, but it was outrageous! The one good thing that was said to me was, well you didn't butcher that too much! I also would come home crying. I almost gave it up. I had only been playing a few years and was as into as I am now. Then I got this judge who was really nice. It was the end of my 3rd year and it was going to be my last. He was great! He clapped when I finished, told me good things mixed in with the bad, and explained things to me in a way I could totally understand. I came out of that room soo happy. I decided to do clarinet for another year on trial. I went to high school and shock! That wonderful judge was my band director! I have been learning under his direction for 3 years now and it has been great. He has been really supportive all the time! So what I guess I am saying is, there are good judges out there, they are just hard to find. I haven't gone back yet, so I don't know what the percentage is. So remeber to keep having fun! Or else why keep playing? :o)
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Author: Jim
Date: 2000-05-08 09:27
Did you prepare for this experience to learn something about your playing, or to be patted on the back, told you did a good job, and be passed on down the line? I started playing dance gigs at a very young age, and the manner in which my mistakes were pointed out to me was very hard for me to cope with. We were doing a solo medley and the lead alto said," Hey Jim, take a solo, we haven't had a good laugh all night." To this day, I donot solo well and dread the thought of having to do a solo. I've played in all types of goups from dixie to chamber orchestra, circus bands to woodwind choirs and believe me, music is like show and tell time. You can tell about your abilities, and then the horn comes out of the case and everybody listens to you tune up. Hang in there and take the knocks, it is really worth it Ive been doing it for 55 years and still love it.
Jim
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Author: Kontragirl
Date: 2000-05-09 00:20
I didn't have a hard time with my judge, more than my fellow clarinet player! We got done playing and he talked to ME about MY techique and left her alone. It wasn't brutal or anything, in fact, he was very nice. We got out of the room and she tore me apart "He bugged you because I did really good covering up for all of your mistakes." And she was probably ten times more brutal than any judge. It got to the point where I told her I had to go to the bathroom and I hid in the warm up room until my solo.
I went and did my solo, for the same judge. He told me that he had recognized my name for a solo, so he wanted to give me tips (at the time he didn't know he would be judging me). He also said I was had a lot more potential then my partner and he didn't want to waste time on her because she seemed like the type that would smile and nod, and not change anything. (BTW, she is). The duet got a two and my solo got a one.
Just a long example of how Mark said they wouldn't waste time on you if you weren't good.
Kontragirl
PS This was on Bb clarinet...I wish I could have done a contra duet!
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Author: Tim2
Date: 2000-05-09 00:32
Mark is right when he said that the judge would not have spent the time with you unless he thought there was good reason and that it would have made a difference. Sometimes time is limited. I would say, though, that he should have said something positive, the good aspects of your playing.
Don't let the one judge dismay your musical involvement. You know what you can do. You know what others do. You go out and set the goals you want and do it. Truly I wish you well. Practice over the summer. Music must be very important to you to feel as you do. It's very easy to remember the bad things that happen in a performance; they disproportionally outweigh the good things in the performers mind (and maybe the judge's).
Keep working. Play on.
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