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 Buffet crampon trademark logo questions
Author: C2thew 
Date:   2006-04-08 07:41

Ok so i recently acquired a buffet clarinet that's gone through quite some hell throughout its lifetime. it has 2 nicks on the lower joint that were repaired with a rubber compound and painted black (nothing that would stop its playing condition) and a repaired crack on the inside of the upper joint where the two joints connected. i believe this was from the previous owner, owners from dropping it. the springs on the loewr joint are missing, one of the springs on the upper joint is gone, thus keeping the trill key up (i had to keep it down in order to play it)

The clarinet is marked on the upper joint as a buffet e 13 number k902XX but it does not match with the lower joint (D49XX) marked "made in france" right above there are no other* cracks, but i did manage to get a few notes from the clarinet (open g d and A with quite a sound)

question to all of you.
My clarinet says buffet crampon while the e 13 says buffet crampon and CIE

and last but not least, the wood grains on the e 13 seem to be tighter then the other pieces (or swirlier, meaning that the wood is from a different part of the tree.)

can someone tellme or even give me a clue of what i have to look at here? did the vintage r-13's have crampon and CIE logos on them too? does your buffet clarinet say made in france on it? and if so, is it an r 13? i just want to make sure that if i fix this clarinet will i have a decent playable clarinet?

i currently have a selmer signet soloist.
thanks. please post as much as possible on anything about the buffet trademark logos or serial numbers.

i do have experience in clarinet playing, just only given the chance to own a buffet.

-Crandall

Our inventions are wont to be pretty toys, which distract our attention from serious things. they are but improved means to an unimproved end, an end which was already but too easy to arrive as railroads lead to Boston to New York
-Walden; Henry Thoreau

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 Re: Buffet crampon trademark logo questions
Author: Vytas 
Date:   2006-04-08 15:14

No, this clarinet is not an R-13

The Lower-Joint belongs to the older Evette, France (E11) student level clarinet. The Upper-Joint it is what it says it is "E13" - high intermediate level clarinet.

Vytas Krass
Professional clarinet technician
Custom clarinet mouthpiece maker
Former professional clarinet player




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 Re: Buffet crampon trademark logo questions
Author: C2thew 
Date:   2006-04-08 15:26

i thought so. the wood grain didn't match the e 13 upper joint. Say.. victor, how do you distinguish the beter type of wood? i noticed that the e13 has a swirley pattern as opposed to the "straight" pattern on the other pieces. have any info?

Our inventions are wont to be pretty toys, which distract our attention from serious things. they are but improved means to an unimproved end, an end which was already but too easy to arrive as railroads lead to Boston to New York
-Walden; Henry Thoreau

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 Re: Buffet crampon trademark logo questions
Author: ElBlufer 
Date:   2006-04-08 19:07

Every piece of wood has it's own pattern. The straight pattern could not show lower quality, as my R-13 is made out of wood with a straight looking pattern.

My Setup:
R13 Clarinet (Ridenour Lyrique as my backup/marching instrument)
Walter Grabner K11 mouthpiece
Rico Reserve 3.5's
Bonade ligature

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