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 French Mouthpiece on German system
Author: Greek Style 
Date:   2006-03-26 13:47

Have any of you tried or know if you can use french mouthpieces on german clarinets? I have a German clarinet and i want to try the Vandoren B45.



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 Re: French Mouthpiece on German system
Author: clarnibass 
Date:   2006-03-26 13:50

A few months ago at the bass clarinet convention they had german clarinets from Yamaha. I wanted to play one but my mouthpiece wouldn't fit. I don't remember if it was too big or too small (I think too small) but it didn't work anyway.

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 Re: French Mouthpiece on German system
Author: Brandon 
Date:   2006-03-26 13:55

I have played a Wurlitzer clarinet with a French mouthpiece. I had to have a special barrel, as the normal Wurlitzer barrel did not support the French mouthpiece. The one thing about this setup: for many French clarinets, the resistance rests in the mouthpiece and reed. For the German(at least the Wurlitzer) clarinet, the resistance lies in the instrument. Therefore, you will get two different types of feels when trying the instrument. To play the German clarinet with a real German mouthpiece you will need a softer reed. I typically play a strength 2 with a German mpc and clarinet. If this was tmi, I apologize, but there is that much of a difference. At least in my experience.

Brandon

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 Re: French Mouthpiece on German system
Author: Brandon 
Date:   2006-03-26 13:58

BTW...From what I remember about some other makers, Dietz and Leitner & Krauss, I had to have a different barrel as well.

Brandon

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 Re: French Mouthpiece on German system
Author: Terry Stibal 
Date:   2006-03-27 01:43

Vandoren offers mouthpieces sized to fit German instruments, both narrow sockets and normal ones. They are provided with the standard (for the German market) "grooved ligature area", and have the typical triangular appearance of the German style mouthpieces.

They are in stock with Music 1-2-3 at least, in multiple lays.

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 Re: French Mouthpiece on German system
Author: Gregory Smith 2017
Date:   2006-03-27 02:17

On the pair of 1994 German Oehler Wurlitzer clarinets that I play in the orchestra, I know that my own French mouthpiece, when the upper socket of the German barrels are sized to accommodate it, plays beautifully and tonally appropriate on them.

That may be peculiar to my style of French mouthpiece (bore, chamber, etc) that it would demonstrate that kind of flexibility. But Hans Zinner GmbH makes mouthpieces for both German and French clarinets. Perhaps there is a much greater similarity between the two styles the way Zinner makes them - I'm not certain but would guess so based on my experience.

The first year or so that I began playing on the Wurlitzers (only for the German repertoire) and before I found a German mouthpiece that I liked or could learn to play, I sounded fine and surprisingly German on my own French mouthpiece. There was a slight, almost imperceptible change of timbre when I switched permanently to the German mouthpiece.

Gregory Smith

http://www.gregory-smith.com



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