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 Vandoren Klassik Ligature
Author: Aussie Nick 
Date:   2006-03-16 10:39

Just looking for some opinions from people who have tried these new ligatures. I've been using it only a few days so far, and for the first time I can remember, I can notice an obvious difference in tone colour and tone characteristics particularly around bottom E and F. The only two things I am questioning is reed response and whether or not the ligature actually holds the reed on well enough. Maybe its just that my reeds aren't that great at the moment, actually they have been awful lately, but I get the feeling they seal a little better with a different ligature such as BG or the likes...

Any experiences/thoughts?

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 Re: Vandoren Klassik Ligature
Author: Bnewbs 
Date:   2006-03-17 04:24

I am the only person I know using a VD klassik, and I have gotta say its the greatest thing since sliced bread. I noticed more resonance and a little better tonal center than with my super rev or bonade inverted (tone gets shrill up top w/bonade). If you tighten it a little it should seal better. Response is a little slower with a string ligature than a metal one, which I like. It is not as slow as a with rovner (which is too slow for me), or electrical tape, which performs suspiciously similarly to a rovner.

Ben

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 Re: Vandoren Klassik Ligature
Author: Bob Phillips 
Date:   2006-03-17 15:04

Ben,

What do you mean by slow response from your ligatures?

Bob Phillips

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 Re: Vandoren Klassik Ligature
Author: MaDxClArInAtOr 
Date:   2007-01-11 14:25

i just received a klassik ligature that i ordered from music123, and its made a very distinct difference in my tone. throat tone are much more clear, transition from registers are very smooth, tone is very consistent, articulation is crisp and clear. it's THE ligature i could ever hope for. i highly recommend everyone should give it a try.



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 Re: Vandoren Klassik Ligature
Author: Mags1957 
Date:   2007-01-11 16:29

I love my Klassik, having used it daily for the last 6 months. I feel it gives a nice, round, dark sound. I put mine on pretty tightly, so the reed doesn't move around, maybe that helps with the response, which I don't find slow at all. Absolutely love it.

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 Re: Vandoren Klassik Ligature
Author: Iceland clarinet 
Date:   2007-01-11 17:13

I find the Klassik ligature to be extreamly fluffy and it vibrates very little specially in the upper register. It projects fairly but having clear staccato is diffucult. The positive about this ligature is that it makes the tone really dark with good projection unlike the Vandoren Leather ligature which only satisfy me with the metal insert. The low register is very powerful and broad on my Festival clarinet with this ligature. But keep in mind that ligatures acts differently on different mouthpieces and with different reeds.

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 Re: Vandoren Klassik Ligature
Author: Roger Aldridge 
Date:   2007-01-12 02:16

I started using a Klassik ligature a couple of months ago and I'm very impressed with it. The Klassik really brings out the resonant qualities of my Grabner K14 mouthpiece and vintage Couesnon Monopole clarinet. Projection is very much enhanced and response is excellent. I've not had any problems with the reed slipping. It's definitely MY ligature.

The only gripe I have is that Vandoren has not made a version of the Klassik for tenor saxophone!

Roger



Post Edited (2007-01-12 02:18)

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 Re: Vandoren Klassik Ligature
Author: Detru Cofidin 
Date:   2007-01-12 02:35

slow response means "not-as sudden response"

Nicholas Arend

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 Re: Vandoren Klassik Ligature
Author: marvin 
Date:   2007-01-14 01:52

I have been using a Klassik for about two months as well in everyday playing while teaching. I like the evenness of tone and response that I get. Has anyone that likes the Klassik, tried the Pyne woven ligature? How do they compare?

Marvin Western

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 Re: Vandoren Klassik Ligature
Author: marvin 
Date:   2007-01-14 03:44

Another woven ligature that used to be on the market was the Tru-Blo. I found it advertised in a 2004 Woodwind-Brasswind catalog, but my search of the internet and the Woodwind Pages didn't turn up anything. Has anyone tried it? Is it still available?

Marvin Western

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 Re: Vandoren Klassik Ligature
Author: Roger Aldridge 
Date:   2007-01-26 15:40

I have some great news for those of us who double on saxophone and are interested in the Klassik ligature. I ordered an alto sax version of the Klassik from 1stopclarinet. It arrived yesterday and I happily discovered that it expands enough to comfortably fit my hard rubber tenor sax mouthpiece. The results are fantastic!

Roger

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 Re: Vandoren Klassik Ligature
Author: bob49t 
Date:   2007-01-26 17:29

Thanks for that Roger..good news indeed....I'm very much enjoying my clar Klassic lig and indeed enjoying the interest generated within the ww section, because of the dangling string ends ! I'm off to order the alto sax version now.

BobT

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 Re: Vandoren Klassik Ligature
Author: carrielj 
Date:   2007-01-26 17:36

Marvin, I had a Tru-blo ligature. It has a metal band that holds both ends of the leather together. The solder point in the metal band broke within a week leaving me with a strip of woven leather. I'm still wondering what I should do with it now, maybe a bookmark.

I don't recommend them.

Carrie

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 Re: Vandoren Klassik Ligature
Author: Roger Aldridge 
Date:   2007-01-27 14:07

Bob,

Do you know if a bass clarinet version of the Klassik is available in the UK or France? I'd LOVE to have one on bass!

If you're able to check into that I'd be grateful.

Roger

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 Re: Vandoren Klassik Ligature
Author: Bruno 
Date:   2007-01-27 23:11

I took a look at on Music 123. How do you work it? What's with the strings hanging off?

B.



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 Re: Vandoren Klassik Ligature
Author: Christian Dawid 
Date:   2007-01-27 23:25

... what makes this ligature different from simply using string?
Wouldn't that save like, let's say, 40 bucks, and simply fit any mouthpiece any time?

[String is still used for certain kinds of shoes, it supposedly works great!]

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 Re: Vandoren Klassik Ligature
Author: bulldoggy1 
Date:   2007-07-15 22:48

I have a Tru Blo ligature. It's ok. I have tried many ligatures, but I tend to go back to my Eddie Daniels mp.

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 Re: Vandoren Klassik Ligature
Author: bob49t 
Date:   2007-07-16 17:24

Roger...... sorry didn't check back into this thread, so missed your request ! Have now checked a couple of suppliers but they don't seem to carry a bass clarinet Klassic lig. I too would love one, so my ears are open if anyone catches up with one, after all it's 6mnths since we originally looked !

RT

BobT

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 Re: Vandoren Klassik Ligature
Author: crnichols 
Date:   2007-07-16 21:10

I've been using a Vandoren Klassik lately, and I really enjoy playing with it. I used a Pyne Handwoven for a while, but it stretched out, and I like having the ability with the Vandoren to tighten it manually.

I'd have to agree the response is somewhat different, but after you fine-tune your reed to adapt to the difference, it's really quite wonderful.

It's not ideal though if you have to switch from Bb to A clarinet quickly though, which I rarely need to do. That's probably the only issue I have with it.

Christopher Nichols, D.M.A.
Assistant Professor of Clarinet
University of Delaware

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 Re: Vandoren Klassik Ligature
Author: PsyWumper 
Date:   2011-03-08 20:04

I just got my VD Klassik in the mail a few days ago. I used to use a metal Bonade and a Rovner-style ligatures in combination with any of Gigliotti P34 or Vandoren B45 mouthpieces and Legere Quebec or Legere Signature Series reeds. I haven't tried my Klassik ligature with cane reeds, but I don't see myself going back to cane any time soon, but that's a whole other topic. Anyway.

My experience with the Klassik is that my tone is much fuller, especially in the altissimo. I do have a slightly fuzzy sound in the chalameau with playing louder, I think once I get used to it my sound down there will work out. Articulation is very clear and requires no more effort than any of the other ligatures I've used.

My only problems with it are related to storing it, I can't leave my ligature on my mouthpiece in the case because my P34 mouthpiece is wider as it is, then you add the width of a Klassik ligature and it won't fit in any mouthpiece cap. Maybe I should get an alto sax mouthpiece cap. But then storing it in a case... For now I just put it back on the little wooden peg that it came with and cover it with the provided mouthpiece cap. If the Klassik were easier to put on and take off and store it would be pretty close to perfect I think.

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 Re: Vandoren Klassik Ligature
Author: Ken Shaw 2017
Date:   2011-03-08 20:47

I've used a soft, very flexible plastic mouthpiece cap since 1958, and it's doing fine. I haven't seen one in a catalog lately, but an alto clarinet or alto sax cap should fit. Get one in thin metal and use needle-nose pliers to bend it into shape.

You could also cut a sheet of soft, flexible plastic, form it around the ligature and fasten it in shape with clear duct tape. http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0000DH8I8/ref=nosim/kkorg-22

Ken Shaw

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 Re: Vandoren Klassik Ligature
Author: reedwizard 
Date:   2011-03-08 22:45

I love mine, if you buy one try several as they will all respond a little differently.

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 Re: Vandoren Klassik Ligature
Author: Bob Barnhart 2017
Date:   2011-03-08 23:13

I wonder...could you wrap your clarinet in duct tape and get a "covered sound"?

Bob Barnhart

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