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 Mouthpiece
Author: myrnabs 
Date:   2006-03-05 20:46

Can anyone please tell me of a good custom made mouthpiece. One that works with vandoren's v12 and gonzalez FOF. I've had it with trying to find a good one out there. I am in desparate need of good advice.
Myrna

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 Re: Mouthpiece
Author: tracymiller 
Date:   2006-03-05 23:14

There is an excellent mouthpiece called the Jewel DMK/AC "Classical" Mouthpiece. They are individually hand crafted by Dave Knox, and play tested by clarinetist Dr. Arthur Campbell. He recommends you using Vandoren V-12 #31/2 to #4 size reeds, although I used both the V12's and Gonzalez FOF on a #4. Excellent tone color, response and articulation are my favorite things about this mouthpiece. WW&BW (Woodwind and Brasswind) sells this for $180.00, but it's well worth the extra price.

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 Re: Mouthpiece
Author: clarnibass 
Date:   2006-03-06 05:18

If I'm not mistaken Fobes mouthpieces, which I think are excellent (I play one on bass clarinet) are made to work with Vandoren reeds.
Also Vandoren mouthpieces obviously should work with Vandoren reeds. Some people claim they are not consistant and not very high quality. RI recently played a lot of Vandorens and they were bgoth high quality and consistant.

Good luck.

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 Re: Mouthpiece
Author: Bnewbs 
Date:   2006-03-06 21:59

I am not a big fan of V12s For me there wildly inconsistent) but the Grabner K series works very well with both of them (V12 and the FOFs which I do like). Greg Smith is another consideration.

Ben

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 Re: Mouthpiece
Author: Brenda Siewert 
Date:   2006-03-07 20:16

I also recommend Grabner and Smith. I play V-12s on a Grabner K14.

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 Re: Mouthpiece
Author: David Spiegelthal 2017
Date:   2006-03-07 21:15

Statistically speaking, if one were to acquire an infinite number of highly-variable mouthpieces, along with an infinite number of highly-variable reeds, there should exist at least one perfect reed-mouthpiece match, for every reed. Or at least, for one of those reeds. Shouldn't there?

Or, the player could learn to use a reed knife (or other device) and adjust the reed du jour to work on the mouthpiece de l'annee, thus saving considerable time and expense.

Sorry for the sarcasm, but if y'all reed players would make the effort to learn how to adjust reeds, you'd eliminate a high percentage of your reed-mouthpiece matching problems. End of sermon.
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 Re: Mouthpiece
Author: TonkaToy 
Date:   2006-03-07 21:20

Amen, Rev. David

You gotta work with what you've got. Life isn't fair, so make the best of what you have.

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 Re: Mouthpiece
Author: glin 
Date:   2006-03-07 21:56

I'm trying to set aside one day a week (Sunday-praying to the reed gods, helps) to work on reeds. I'm using good old fashioned reed rush, a strong task light, a square plate of glass with a piece of black construction paper behind the glass-it allows you to see how much reed you are taking off.

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 Re: Mouthpiece
Author: nickma 
Date:   2006-03-07 22:16

You really should try a Rick Sayre mouthpiece. He does minimal advertising, does not like mail order, and is in many ways the antithesis of the modern mouthpiece marketer.

But wait til you try his mouthpieces. They are extraordinary, and are priced for next to nothing for what they are.

For me it as a relevation. The difference between 'really very good indeed', as many gifted handmade mouthpiece makers are, and 'unbelievably grin- from-ear-to-ear good'.

So good that most of my other previously acquired very good mouthpieces will be sold on.

Nick

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 Re: Mouthpiece
Author: myrnabs 
Date:   2006-03-08 04:36

Ok so where can I find out more about this mouthpiece? The Rick something?



Post Edited (2006-03-08 04:38)

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 Re: Mouthpiece
Author: GBK 
Date:   2006-03-08 04:43

myrnabs wrote:

> Ok so where can I find out more about this mouthpiece? The Rick
> something?


http://www.sayrewoodwinds.com/

...GBK

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 Re: Mouthpiece
Author: clarnibass 
Date:   2006-03-08 04:53

"the player could learn to use a reed knife (or other device) and adjust the reed du jour to work on the mouthpiece de l'annee, thus saving considerable time and expense."

With the reeds that I currently use I rarely find a reed that is not playable, so I save even more time by not adjusting reeds  :)

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 Re: Mouthpiece
Author: vrufino 
Date:   2006-03-08 19:00

I have played on a Sayre Mouthpiece for more than 10 years. it is an excellent mpc. I played with Morre reeds on this and currently use Gonzalez and V-12's. Intonation is excellent, tone is full and warm. I find it is better than the Ann Arbor Kaspar that I played on previously.
V

Dr. Vincent J. Rufino
Professor of clarinet and saxophone
St. Elizabeth University
Morristown, NJ

Post Edited (2006-03-08 19:00)

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 Re: Mouthpiece
Author: Tom Puwalski 
Date:   2006-03-09 11:04

Do the Sayer mouthpiece still have the Jesus fish on them? I know that would go over on my next Purim concert

Tom Puwalski, former soloist with the US Army Field Band, Clarinetist with Lox&Vodka, and Author of "The Clarinetist's Guide to Klezmer"and most recently by the order of the wizard of Oz, for supreme intelligence, a Masters in Clarinet performance

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 Re: Mouthpiece
Author: Steve B. 
Date:   2006-03-09 13:45

Does anyone know whose hard rubber blank Mr. Sayre uses.

Steve

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 Re: Mouthpiece
Author: nickma 
Date:   2006-03-09 21:04

Tom, Rick's current mouthpieces do have a Jesus fish on them. If that bothers you, remember your lig will cover it up....Probably better this than images of false idols!

His uses Zinner blanks Steve.

Nick

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 Re: Mouthpiece
Author: tictactux 2017
Date:   2006-03-09 21:19

[ Deleted - Let's keep the discussion about mouthpieces - GBK ]

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 Re: Mouthpiece
Author: Jack Kissinger 
Date:   2006-03-09 21:53

Myrna,

If there's any useful information in all these posts, it seems to me that it is that there are many very fine mouthpiece makers all over the country (except in St. Louis AFAIK), any of whom could likely craft you a good one. I personally think your best bet would be to find someone in your neck of the woods, make an appointment and work with him/her (are there any women making mouthpieces?) to have one tailored for you (otherwise you don't really have a "custom" mouthpiece, do you?).

Best regards,
jnk

p.s. Aren't lox fish?

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 Re: Mouthpiece
Author: StephanieG 
Date:   2006-03-09 22:08

I play on a Greg Smith and love it. was able to try a few before i settled in on the one i use now. works great with v-12's and i have just switched to the 56's and seems to do good with them too!!



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 Re: Mouthpiece
Author: JJAlbrecht 
Date:   2006-03-10 17:23

Ted Lane makes some excellent mouthpieces from Zinner blanks. Do a web search for "Ted Lane Mouthpiece" and you will find him. He is based in Mission, Texas, and will ship you out a couple to try. I bought two from him recently, and they are great pieces. Ted is a great guy to work with, too!

Jeff



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 Re: Mouthpiece
Author: MD1032 
Date:   2006-03-12 02:10

The guy who repaired my clarinet converted me to the Charles Bay H2 mouthpiece, and all I can say is that it's an amazing mouthpiece. I came from a Vandoren B45 for reference. This Bay mouthpiece is something else. It has an excellent, very open and well-rounded sound, very rich, and projects well with little effort. Articulation is a breeze too. I use a combination of the traditionals and the V12's, which are both so inconsistent that I'm bound to get the miracle reed from either box. I personally prefer the V12's, though. Their low-end is absolutely spectacular, though they cannot match the sweetness of a solid blue-box given the right reed comparison. I've also tried the Rue Lepics, and I have very mixed feelings about those.

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 Re: Mouthpiece
Author: nickma 
Date:   2006-03-12 18:53

Tom, Looking at a 'pre Fish' Sayre mouthpiece, the end of the bore underneath the cork is engraved with the words 'God Bless' - cute touch. The pre Fish mouthpiece (K13) plays very differntly to his current K13 - I much prefer the more recent one, although both are excellent in their own ways.

Myrna, I'll second the poster who gave the thumbs up to Walter Grabner mouthpieces. These are really great too, and display excellent intonation across the spectrum.

Nick

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 Re: Mouthpiece
Author: Bill 
Date:   2006-03-12 19:33

My two cents: Buy a really good blank (a "Qualite Superieure" item or an old Riffault) and send it to Vytas Krass. Ask for one of the closer facings (his "Matsen," for example) ... and enjoy forever.

B.

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 Re: Mouthpiece
Author: pcrispino32 
Date:   2006-03-13 09:33

vandoren m13 lyre. cheap mouthpiece, about sixty bucks, plays well with v12 reeds, and plays pretty in tune.

PC

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