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Author: clarnibass
Date: 2006-02-20 13:55
Hi
It has been so long since I've played a classical piece and I forgot what some symbols and words mean.
What does Dolce mean?
I have a sf (I assume it is not exactly like sforzando) which I'm not sure how to play. It is under a group of four 16th notes. There is a long rest before and after that group. What is different between that and just have f under that group of notes?
I'll probably find some more things later.
Thanks.
Post Edited (2006-02-20 14:02)
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Author: Bassie
Date: 2006-02-20 14:06
Dolce = sweetly
sf: I'd guess 'suddenly forte'. Is it 'piano' either side of this group?
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Author: David Peacham
Date: 2006-02-20 14:09
sf just means sforzando
"suddenly forte" would be written "subito forte" or "sub f".
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Author: Bassie
Date: 2006-02-20 14:13
Thanks, David. I eventually found 'sf' on the Web:
http://acdaonline.org/states/SD/Musical%20Terminology.htm
My favourite oddity is 'sfp'. I know what this means, but what's the literal translation into Italian (if there is one)?
Friend of mine (flautist) once had a piece marked 'to be played without raising the eyebrows' 3:-)
Post Edited (2006-02-20 14:20)
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Author: clarnibass
Date: 2006-02-20 14:21
Thanks for your answers.
Bassie it is not piano before or after the sf. It is actually mf or f.
David in that case how is sf different from sfz, and how those two different from subito forte?
And forgive my ignorance, but how is sf or sfz different from f when you have rests before and after?
Maybe it doesn't mean much to the player but more to make the player aware of the dynamic in the group at that moment?
Thanks again.
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Author: clarnibass
Date: 2006-02-20 14:26
OK Bassie I read that link and it seems the difference between f and sf or sfz is just a bit more aggressive attack in the latter.
Thanks very much.
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2006-02-20 17:44
I assume 'sforzato' and 'sforzando' are one and the same (in execution) - but correct me if I'm wrong.
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Author: EEBaum
Date: 2006-02-20 18:17
> how is sf different from sfz
One is written with a "z"
> and how those two different from subito forte?
Subito is an indication that the dynamic change should be sudden, i.e. don't add any little crescendo or diminuendo toward it. You may even add one away from it (e.g. get quieter just before a subito forte). Usually it's just a clarification of the composer's intent, and might just as well be left off.
sf(z) is an indication of the force or articulation given to that particular note. It's like a super-accent with dynamics. Hence the absence of an equivalent sp(z).
-Alex
www.mostlydifferent.com
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Author: Shorthand
Date: 2006-02-21 03:35
Remember, notation is just a means of communication. As long as you get the point across, it has done its job.
The interpretation as I understand it is that a sfz is an sf just more so. (Frank Tichelli sffz at the end of Vesuvius.)
Its essentially all of the articulation and air of a housetop accent but without the implied marcato. It also means that you continue at a forte until told otherwise. Its the one place where you really do have license to use a heavy tongue (excepting some composers that just write that way).
Composers differ, but usually a "subito forte" can be notated simply by a piano section followed by a forte mark - the trumpets will be more than happy to oblige with all of the surprise you want. If you want an explosion, you add an accent mark or an sf, or an sfz if you really want something more obscene.
Its subito pianos that require a different touch than a normal forte followed by a piano section. In my experience, most ensembles will let their sound decay with the hall (at the hall's decay rate ... or slower). If you want a piano melody emerging out of the reverb, that's when you write a sp - so that the listener has the sense that they're missing something while their ears readjust.
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