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Author: Kchui999
Date: 2006-02-13 02:29
Ive been playing a Buffet Vintage for about 4 months, and it's getting broken in rather nicely. Tuning is great, however, im always flat on the clarion E (4th space). All other notes are perfect, but the E is always flat, no matter how warmed up i am, no matter how much i try to lip-up. Does anyone else have this problem? Anyone know how it can be fixed???
My setup is a Buffet r13 Vintage with either of the included barrels, a greg smith 1+, vandoren 3.5's on a GCS harrison copy....if that helps with a diagnosis.
~Chui
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Author: donald
Date: 2006-02-13 04:31
....is the E flatter than the F? on many Buffet clarinets the F and E are flatter than the D/C/B below them. This can be solved by 3 ways
1) adjustment to bore (needs expert- only a handful of people in the world i would trust to do this to my instrument!)
2) undercut the holes from which F/E are emitted to sharpen those notes, then tune the joint from the middle tenon
3) flatten the pitch of D/C/B by filling in holes on the upper hemisphere (and pulling the bell). Sometimes closing the C/B pads (which vent D and C) can flatten D and C, but care must be taken not to overdo this, or you end up with a very stuffy low G. You can also flatten middle line B by filling in the bell (try it with blue-tack before using anything more serious), this will "sweeten" the other right hand notes but may make them too stuffy.
..... if it really is JUST THE E and none of the other notes, check that all the pads are sealing well (right hand bannana key?) if so, then AN EXPERT can undercut the upper hemishpere of the tone hole to sharpen that note. Someone like Morrie Backun would have a clearer idea what to do- it could also be that the pitch can be adjusted by voicing the next tone hole up.... while that seems unlikely i've seen it done with success.
keep playing the good tunes
donald
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Author: Paul Aviles
Date: 2006-02-13 15:53
I tried one that was a gas to play but the clarion A was flat. Actually so was the 12th below. Then the altissimo seemed overall too low so I abandoned the idea of getting that horn - too troublsome on pitch. I might change my mind if I ever run into one that tunes like an R13.
..............Paul Aviles
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Author: Ryan25
Date: 2006-02-13 23:54
I also had trouble with intonation on the vintage. Get an R13 or a prestige and forget about all the other models...none of them are that special. Look at Buffet's list of artists.........85 to 90% of them play regular R13 or Prestige....that's enough for me to stick with those two kinds only...unless you got the bread for an Opus!
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Author: Scotti
Date: 2006-02-15 13:30
With so many different factors that can affect pitch on our instruments, even on specific notes, why are so many board members so ready to suggest altering the bore???
Particularly when the poster claims that the other notes are all "perfect," it seems likely to me that there are options besides fundamentally changing the instrument.
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