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 yamaha csg A
Author: raddatcj 
Date:   2006-01-13 08:29


I recently purchased a yamaha csG A clarinet with "Hamilton" plating... I am amazed by the tuning of this instrument. I have been and continue to play an R 13 Buffett Bb clarinet and love this instrument as well. I wonder though about voulumne as far as air goes with the csg. I seem not to be able to get as large of a sound through this instrument...Understandable..I know..., I haven't had the experience of having a beautiful sounding instument with almost perfect intonation and wanting to be able to play louder!?!? An increase of embecoure control will help...(long tones Ect.) but what do you do when you are pushing for a controlled sound and you can only get to a ceritan volumne?

P.S. I am a very experienced player wondering what to do when your instrument will not take a powerfull airstream..(I've expericed this with certian buffett's as well.) I need to be able to project and be heard with the wonderful sound of this instrument..what do you do when you hit the wall as far as projection goes?

I already hear the ideas,...air is not leaking through the lips ( not happenign) ...dont' blame it on the instrument....what can I do as a player to get a bigger sound...though I love the sound of my CSG clarinet?? ( if anything at all?)

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 Re: yamaha csg A
Author: L. Omar Henderson 
Date:   2006-01-13 10:48

(Disclaimer - I am maker of the Forte' C clarinet)
The CSG Yamaha - which I have tried several examples of in exhibitor down time at the Oklahoma Clarinet Symposium 2004 in both Bb and A are a different animal which uses the bore more for tuning, like the German clarinets, and has a very short barrel. Our new Forte' C clarinet - both because of the manufacturer and the instrument itself being smaller also has very short barrels and the barrel design and taper is a very critical part of the tuning and playing characteristics of the instrument.

I would suggest that the same is true for the Yamaha CSG in A. At the OK Symposium Yamaha was just introducing the CSG and the development engineer present had a whole raft of barrels for people to try with the new instruments and indicated that they were trying to refine the barrel configuration (not telling stories out of school but this was an honest attempt to investigate American player preferences). I tried a bunch of the barrels on the CSG horns and the barrel selection made a significant difference in the playability and sound volume - projection properties that I perceived playing the same horn. Different instruments in the same model have different properties so the barrel may or may not be the complete answer but would certainly be a starting point for me to investigate if I were an owner. Perhaps other CSG owners will chime in about their experiences.
L. Omar Henderson

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 Re: yamaha csg A
Author: Bob Phillips 
Date:   2006-01-13 15:22

Interesting, Omar!

My new Buffet set-up is also too quiet with its new barrel amongst other changes. This barrel improves intonation greatly, but, ....

So, off to swap the old barrel and see if I can get some noise out of the horn.

Thanks

Bob Phillips

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 Re: yamaha csg A
Author: GBK 
Date:   2006-01-13 15:34

A severe mismatch between the bore of the mouthpiece and the bore of the barrel can create unnecessary resistance or a smaller sound ...GBK

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 Re: yamaha csg A
Author: raddatcj 
Date:   2006-01-18 10:27

thanks guys!!!

I guess I was just wondering what actually makes a "large" sound and how I can improve projection. I have a well made instrument...in ceritian orchestral situations it does help to make powerful sound..how do you cultivate this?

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 Re: yamaha csg A
Author: Pedro Robatto 
Date:   2006-02-12 02:14

Hi, I am clarinetist from Brazil and I am very interested in purchase the new clarinet Yamaha YCL-CSG-H. I looked at the internet and found best prices in USA than in Europe. Where did you buy your Yamaha? And how was the price?

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 Re: yamaha csg A
Author: sinkdraiN 
Date:   2006-02-12 16:41

Definately try the other barrels yamaha makes for the csg. I too tried this clarinet at a conference and the yamaha rep handed me a box of about 10 barrels. Every single one played VERY in tune but had VERY different characteristics in resistance and response. I do remember one of them being particularly projecting.

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