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Author: Phurster
Date: 2006-01-28 03:39
If Buffet, LeBlanc, Yamaha spend a great deal of time and money researching how to make Clarinets why don't they try to improve their mouthpieces?
Does it make sense to allow others to corner this section of the market?
Is it logical to buy say a new Buffet Clarinet and then change the mpc, barrel and now even the bell?
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Author: EEBaum
Date: 2006-01-28 07:35
People already buy their bells, barrels, and mouthpieces. If people got a discounted rate for clarinets that came without them, I imagine they'd have more motivation to make better ones.
-Alex
www.mostlydifferent.com
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Author: ron b
Date: 2006-01-28 19:00
Perhaps "their" crystal ball tells them to include something that's generally playable (I imagine they spent some time and money researching that), knowing that people will discard it and use their own preferred mouthpiece(s) anyway. Kinda like window dressing, is my guess.
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Author: Paul Aviles
Date: 2006-01-28 21:08
I've recently played a stock R-13 mouthpiece for the first time in MANY years to be comletely knocked over by the playability of it. I would easily compare it to an M30 or a Genusa or an Eddie Daniels. I have yet to use it steadily (do any of us stay with just one mouthpiece for long???), but it is a "keeper."
Perhaps I just got lucky this time and most are garbage.
...............Paul Aviles
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Author: Bill
Date: 2006-01-28 21:58
Paul,
I have an older stock Buffet that Chris Hill refaced. It's like cognac on a cold night.
Bill.
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2006-01-28 23:37
I still have the old ebonite Buffet Eb mouthpiece that came with my '62 R13 Eb I bought off eBay, maybe I'll recork it and see how it plays - who knows? It could be a winner.
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Author: tictactux ★2017
Date: 2006-01-28 23:56
I read in a book that stock mouthpieces are meant to "fit everyone". The author warned not to throw away the mpc unseen, it might prove helpful for the beginner because it'd be of maybe inferior acoustic merits but much more forgiving re beginners' unsettled embouchure.
That would make sense. (I don't quite get it why they even ship them with pro horns, though. But even a pro clarinet would appear incomplete if it came without mouthpiece and/or barrel. Just like they pack one reed with them).
I got three "stock" mouthpieces so far - Goldentone 3, Yamaha 4C and Buffet F3A.
I preferred the Goldentone for its openness. My teacher found it sassy and recommended something more settled like the 4C. My teacher's teacher preferred the 4C. (The Buffet was hors concours then) but appears to be a 4C clone. Neither is really bad, I could do with either on that lone island.
They're all fault-tolerant and technically impeccable, at least for a rookie like me.
Whether you like its sound or not is probably a very personal decision. If I had to sell one of my instruments to an unsuspecting customer I'd probably bundle the 4C. Not because I don't like it but because I won't do anything wrong this way.
Follow-up question: Why don't they ship good reeds?
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Ben
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Author: clarinetgirl09
Date: 2006-01-29 00:28
When I got my R-13, there were two Grand Concert Selects. But they were 2 1/2s I think. They're in my private teacher's office now...Somewhere. But those were some expensive reeds, though...I'm telling you.
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2006-01-29 12:45
Aah, so it's not the usual 'just bung in a Rico 2 in with it' anymore!
I remember when Buffet pro clarinets came with Buffet Prestige reeds - weren't these the same as Selmer Soloist? And weren't these both restamped Vandorens anyway?
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Author: clarnibass
Date: 2006-01-29 14:22
My clarinet, barrel, bell, and mouthpiece are all made by the same company.
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Author: Paul Aviles
Date: 2006-01-30 00:23
Hey Bradley,
Are you saying that you don't care for the Daniels? Without measuring the thing, I assume it's a longer lay mouthpiece since I like it. I think that Leblanc is making an effort to provide all the stuff one needs without going further, such as the BAM cases that are standard as well as the mouthpieces.
Decades from now we will be whining about the good old days when at least one company offered up good accessories with their pro horns and maybe a few of us will remember which company that actually was. I'll be dead by then.
..................Paul Aviles
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Author: Bassie
Date: 2006-01-30 07:19
My Selmer came with a C85 120 - which gave me two of them, cos I'd already bought one seperately to play on my Buffet. Fantastic mouthpiece. When I sold the Buffet, the shiny new C85 went with it.
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