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Author: Alphie
Date: 2006-01-24 23:51
Does anyone have any information on these instruments? Like, when did they stop making them? Were they pro line instruments or cheap junk etc...?
I did a search and got a lot of facts, but can people who have experience tell me how they actually play. There is an "ecole" model for students but are the other model(s) usually good enough for professional use, like an original instrument performance of The Rite of Spring?
Alphie
Post Edited (2006-01-25 00:05)
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Author: super20dan
Date: 2006-01-25 01:51
i used to have one of these. it was very old (around 1920,s) but was well made and i would have considered it to be a pro horn in its day. it had a one peice wood body with no barrell. it played fairly good for a early efeer.
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Author: David Spiegelthal ★2017
Date: 2006-01-25 04:15
I haven't seen a Thibouville eefer, but I've renovated quite a few Thibouville Freres Bb and A clarinets, including some of the "Ecole" models (which I would class as intermediates -- very rugged and play pretty well, comparable to Noblets). The higher-line Thibouvilles were quite good, 'low-professional' grade if I had to put a rating on them. Many of them were marked "F. de l'Armee" which I believe means they were made for use by the French Army (as musical instruments I assume, as opposed to bayonets or muskets). The company was in existence up to the 1970s, I think, and many of their clarinets that you find these days were probably from the 1940s-1960s.
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Author: David Peacham
Date: 2006-01-25 10:33
"an original instrument performance of The Rite of Spring"
Tell me more! Paris 1913? Real French "French" horns? Real French bassoons? No bass trombone? Will it be recorded?
Mind you, I would have thought the difference in sound between a 1913 Boehm clarinet and a modern one would be very small. Will you have an original mouthpiece - and an original reed!?
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If there are so many people on this board unwilling or unable to have a civil and balanced discussion about important issues, then I shan't bother to post here any more.
To the great relief of many of you, no doubt.
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Author: Alphie
Date: 2006-01-25 16:36
I’ve been told that this event is going to take place in Belgium next fall. Supposedly I’m doing the Eb part. As in all original performances the ambition is to get as close as possible to the sound and the blend of the time when the music was written. In this case it includes French bassoons as well as other differences from what we’re used to in today’s versions. My experience mainly with early Boehm system from the 19th and early 20th century is that they sound somewhat “slimmer” and not as loud as instruments made after the war. Finding the right type of mouthpiece is also crucial of cause and I guess I have to start searching.
Don’t know if it’s being recorded.
Alphie
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Author: Don Berger
Date: 2006-01-25 17:10
Alphie - I have, in my modest collection of "oldies", a [very] simple system Albert-Muller with C H Jerome and B on the U J, the bell [?original?] with the "wings-and-medals" and Jerome Thibouville Lamy below and a name [I'll try to magnify-read it]. I'll see if its playable, prob an H P. It has only 2 rings [on L J] and an ?early? patent C#, perhaps my earliest "simple". Just thot I'd mention it for the record. Don
Thanx, Mark, Don
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