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 Re: Who well known is using double lip?
Author: Tony Pay 2017
Date:   2006-01-14 12:31

Alseg wrote:

>> Did he come to the same conclusion?>>

What Campione said in his article, and I've never heard this particular wrinkle before, is this:

We tend to use upper and lower lips symmetrically.

Therefore, if we form a double-lip clarinet embouchure, the length of top lip we wrap round the top teeth tends to be the same as the length of bottom lip we wrap round the bottom teeth.

Call the length of top lip we wrap round the top teeth 'the top wrap', and the length of bottom lip we wrap round the bottom teeth 'the bottom wrap'.

It's a physical fact that most people's maximum top wrap is quite small -- in other words, you can't get your upper lip very far over your upper teeth. (Half an inch or less is typical.)

However, the same is not true of the bottom wrap. Most people can get their lower lip over their lower teeth by an inch and a half or more.

Now, too large a bottom wrap is counterproductive for the production of good clarinet sound. Moreover, it turns out that for many people, the optimal bottom wrap -- the amount they need to wrap their lower lip over their lower teeth to produce a good sound -- is about the same as their maximum top wrap. And so the very act of forming a double lip embouchure automatically puts their lower lip in the correct position with respect to their lower teeth.

There is an added bonus in that the stretching of the upper lip to cover the upper teeth -- not a very natural action in everyday life -- tends to encourage a similarly stretched and flexed lower lip -- just what you want to start off with in order to learn the subtle modulations of this muscle, or group of muscles, that controls and damps the reed in playing.

Campione therefore says that a period of playing double lip embouchure can have a beneficial effect, even though he himself is a single lip player.

Something he doesn't say, though, and something I would like to add, is this:

It immediately strikes me that his insight leads to a very simple method for a beginning student to form a satisfactory embouchure, even without actually playing double lip. They would take the mouthpiece into the mouth with symmetrical top and bottom wrap, and then allow the top lip to slide out from under the top teeth without changing the position or stretching of the lower lip over the lower teeth.

I find that if I do this, I arrive at my normal embouchure.

Tony

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