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 Orchestral rule #23
Author: GBK 
Date:   2006-01-06 09:29

From GBK's "Orchestral Rules" -

#23 - Whether you are playing principal, 2nd or bass clarinet, never forget to bring your Eb clarinet to the first rehearsal of the new season, even if you think you know what the new repertoire will be. Conductors frequently change their mind.

Transposing up a 4th is no picnic ...GBK



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 Re: Orchestral rule #23
Author: Tom A 
Date:   2006-01-06 09:37

Aaaahhhh, the voice of experience....got caught out, did we? :)


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 Re: Orchestral rule #23
Author: hartt 
Date:   2006-01-06 10:09

hmmmmm....

due to a 3 hour difference in time zones, I was sleeping and must have missed Orchestral rule #22...........
can you please reiterate what rule 22 was/is ?

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 Re: Orchestral rule #23
Author: Tony Pay 2017
Date:   2006-01-06 10:47

GBK wrote:

>> #23 - Whether you are playing principal, 2nd or bass clarinet, never forget to bring your Eb clarinet to the first rehearsal of the new season, even if you think you know what the new repertoire will be. Conductors frequently change their mind.>>

Reminds me that when I was in the RPO we recorded Scheherazade in the early 70s with Stokowski, probably one of the last things he did. I can't remember precisely where in the piece, but there was a moment when he pointed at Sue Milan, who was playing first flute.

"Play on piccolo!" he said.

"I'm very sorry, I don't have a piccolo with me," she replied.

"Rule for flute player -- always bring piccolo!!"

Tony

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 Re: Orchestral rule #23
Author: GBK 
Date:   2006-01-06 12:12

hartt wrote:

> due to a 3 hour difference in time zones, I was sleeping
> and must have missed Orchestral rule #22...........
> can you please reiterate what rule 22 was/is ?



#22 - Never play a Bruckner symphony on an empty stomach.

...GBK

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 Re: Orchestral rule #23
Author: DavidBlumberg 
Date:   2006-01-06 12:45

Ahhhhhh, ya should have gotten out the alto sax from the trunk and wailed on that one........  ;)



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 Re: Orchestral rule #23
Author: Ralph Katz 
Date:   2006-01-06 13:54

Good move.

I went round and round with audition people for the [name deleted] symphony (a "driving for dolllars" orchestra) about audition material.

"Nope," they said, "all you need is your Bb."

When I got into the audition, they said "You didn't bring your Eb or your bass?"

There was a story a few years ago in "The Clarinet" about Edward Palanker's extensive experience with this sort of thing.

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 Re: Orchestral rule #23
Author: William 
Date:   2006-01-06 15:46

For the first rehearsal of this year's BJSO Christmas Concert, I was asked to bring my Eb. As I play the 2nd clarinet chair, I also brought my seldom used Yamaha effer along with the usual A & Bb combo, set them all up on my Blayman three peg and got all warmed up for the rehearsal. We we accompaning a local youth choir who was singing a seasonal medely of tunes and the music was to be passed out just before their time to rehearse.

When the part finally reached my stand, what the librarians memo failed to specify was immediantly evident............Eb ALTO SAX!!!

Fortunately, for the rehearsal, transposition was not the issue, but I did bring the correct "Eb" to the concert . We clarinetists are expected to play so many different instruments, arn't we?? (and isn't it fun!!)

BTW--Happy New Year, everyone.

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 Re: Orchestral rule #23
Author: Bob Phillips 
Date:   2006-01-06 16:43

Rule 22a:
Never listen to a Bruckner Symphony on a full stomach.

Bob Phillips

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 Re: Orchestral rule #23
Author: Alseg 
Date:   2006-01-06 16:46

#21
Always have a spare tuxedo


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 Re: Orchestral rule #23
Author: DavidBlumberg 
Date:   2006-01-06 17:38

Rule 23 - Never play Opera on a full stomach ........



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 Re: Orchestral rule #23
Author: Hank Lehrer 
Date:   2006-01-06 18:22

#21a is always have a spare tie for your tux (even a clip-on). Keep it in your case!

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 Re: Orchestral rule #23
Author: clarnibass 
Date:   2006-01-06 19:05

"#21 Always have a spare tuxedo"

"#21a is always have a spare tie for your tux"

What if you don't even have a tux?

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 Re: Orchestral rule #23
Author: Ralph Katz 
Date:   2006-01-06 21:45

I have a case full of cables that I always bring to weddings. When I use the last of one type of cable, I go out and buy another one. This has saved the day at more than a few weddings when a cable went bad, or the sub bass player didn't bring a cable, or our patron wanted to hookup their brother's electric guitar (gak!, but it is only a job, and hooking him up encourages tipping.) Good thing I have a cart to haul it all on.

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 Re: Orchestral rule #23
Author: Terry Stibal 
Date:   2006-01-06 22:28

Is this where I point out that the Eb/Bb transposition is a relatively simple one if you read it in the other octave and then play it with or without the register key (whichever is the opposite of how it appears to be)?

With the exceptions of the altissimo and the area around the break, it's like falling off a log...

Many is the time that I've been to the first rehearsal of a community orchestra group where it is assumed that I'll bring whatever saxophone happens to be needed for the rep. Mind you, they never assume this of the 1st and 2nd chair folks, only of the bass clarinet player...

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 Re: Orchestral rule #23
Author: GBK 
Date:   2006-01-06 23:01

Or you can just transpose at sight everything up a 4th.

In simpler terms, raise every note 3 letter names and add a flat to the key signature ...GBK



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 Re: Orchestral rule #23
Author: Ed 
Date:   2006-01-07 03:33

>In simpler terms, raise every note 3 letter names and add a flat to the key signature

one trick- read the pitch as if it is in bass clef and transpose up a step (bass clef C transposition) of course, changing the key signature as mentioned

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 Re: Orchestral rule #23
Author: Mike Cyzewski 
Date:   2006-01-07 20:00

Most important rule of all.

Never forget to wear your protective cup.

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