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Author: Clarinetgirl06
Date: 2005-12-18 01:31
It looks like Tom Ridenour has made his own line of reeds now! Has anyone heard of these or tried them? It would have probably been a test run if you have tried them. They are supposed to come out after the first of the year. Here's a link:
http://www.rcpreedsdirect.com/
They look rather affordable and are supposedly consistent. I'm rather intrigued by these new lines of reeds. Any opinions?
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Author: Mark Charette
Date: 2005-12-18 02:08
Clarinetgirl06 wrote:
> They look rather affordable and are supposedly consistent.
Only time will tell if they're consistent - and of course at the moment there's no history at all.
> I'm rather intrigued by these new lines of reeds. Any opinions?
I'm of the opinion that I might have an opinion after they're available ...
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Author: Clarinetgirl06
Date: 2005-12-18 02:43
Thanks for the sarcasm Mark. I was just wondering everyone's opinions based on the site and the knowledge they have of Tom Ridenour and his products.
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Author: Mark Charette
Date: 2005-12-18 04:16
Clarinetgirl06 wrote:
> Thanks for the sarcasm Mark.
You're welcome.
> I was just wondering everyone's
> opinions based on the site
The site's pretty badly designed and executed ... I wouldn't base my opinions of the products on the site or the ad copy ...
> and the knowledge they have of Tom Ridenour and his products.
Tom's a nice guy and seems to have put some value in his products, but how could anyone judge a new product, especially something like reeds, by looking at (non-existent!) pictures?
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Author: GBK
Date: 2005-12-18 04:30
Clarinetgirl106 wrote:
> They look rather affordable and are supposedly consistent
Did you expect the advertising blurb to say that they weren't consistent?
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Author: Alseg
Date: 2005-12-18 04:50
It would sure be easier to get his ATG sandpaper (yeah, I know I could do it with double sided tape and cutting, but there isnt enough time in the day)
directly from the site....ie and order form and paypal click to pay set up.
The link for the Eroica reeds does not show anything.
Maybe they only play for Beethoven symphonies.
At least no one named the reeds Pathetique.
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Author: BobD
Date: 2005-12-18 11:48
I have the highest respect for Mr.Ridenour. However, I did purchase one T147 clarinet and was not impressed. And now I note that his new line of horns are not hard rubber which he praised for many years. I would expect that the reeds sold under his banner are OK based on experience only. Please be nice.
Bob Draznik
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Author: ken
Date: 2005-12-18 12:16
I think he should include a free alternate fingering in each box...![[up]](http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/smileys/smiley24.gif) v/r Ken
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Author: DavidBlumberg
Date: 2005-12-18 13:48
There is a record label who's name is Eroica and they actually own the name (legally) Eroica.
The Eroica Trio is using it with permission, but I wonder if Tom can use that name legally as it is in the music industry. (non-music industry of course could use that name, but it is a registered name-mark to the Eroica Recording Label).
I'll bet he didn't think of that one!
btw, I would assume that his line of reeds are very good. He would seek out high quality cane and he knows what he wants in reeds and can hand finish them easily with the ATG system. Don't know if he does finish each reed by hand or not.
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Author: Mark Charette
Date: 2005-12-18 13:58
DavidBlumberg wrote:
> There is a record label who's name is Eroica and they actually
> own the name (legally) Eroica.
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> The Eroica Trio is using it with permission, but I wonder if
> Tom can use that name legally as it is in the music industry.
> (non-music industry of course could use that name, but it is a
> registered name-mark to the Eroica Recording Label).
IANAL but ...
Probably can, but the only ones to come out ahead would be the lawyers. The rationale I would use would be that a recording and a reed would not confuse the average person; they are disparate and distinct "things". The Eroica Trio records, therefore the name of the Trio and the name of the record label could be confused much more easily because of the lack of distinction.
Then again, I am surprised every day by what gets actualized into "law".
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Author: William
Date: 2005-12-18 15:21
When TR was still working for LeBlanc (in Kenosha, WI) he redesigned their Marca Traditional line of reeds. They played ok--I used them for about one year--but like any other brand of reed, they were not consistant and required a lot of balancing for my mouthpiece before they were usable. I have since returned to VanDorans.
What sticks in my mind about Tom is that he had a Reedual mounted on his workbench (desk) that he used when he needed a new reed to play even though he was promoting the companies Marcas. For me, I will maintain a "wait and see" attitude about his new reeds and will not rush to judgement before actually playing a few.
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Author: Ken Shaw ★2017
Date: 2005-12-18 15:46
Tom Ridenour has introduced reeds under his own name a couple of times before. I got a bunch of the initial group, which played very well. He certainly knows what he's doing with reeds.
In the second series, he made his own design and also had a custom service, where you sent him your best reed and he duplicated it.
As Mark says, we'll have to wait until the new ones actually appear, though I will certainly try them when they do.
Tom packaged his first series in flexible, moisture-proof plastic, four or maybe five to a sheet. If you stored reeds in the plastic without drying them thoroughly, they got mouldy. If he uses the same packaging, you need to avoid putting reeds back in it wet.
Ken Shaw
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Author: Shorthand
Date: 2005-12-18 17:51
IANAL, but there are a couple of things going on:
1: If the record label (Part of Bartlesman, right?) doesn't defend its brand, it forfeits its rights in some contexts.
2: Though you could argue that they are both music-related it would be hard to convince a jury, IMO, that the clarinettist on the street would ever confuse the two. A trio, on the other hand, could be construed as working for the label (a studio trio), just like the NBC orchestra or the like.
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Author: clockwiser
Date: 2007-01-17 12:00
The reed page doesn't work!
Actually none of the reed pages work, anyone got alternative links?
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Author: Alseg
Date: 2007-01-17 13:29
The link goes to an error page that lists the product lower down on the page
This then goes to http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/list.html?f=1**
which gets you to the Eroica website via this website.
Must be MC's magnetism.
I hope Mr. R's reeds are more substantial than his web design. The old site (the one with the stripes) gave me a headache.
**dont bother...it heads back to a banner on top of this page, so you go in a circle and get nowhere. (edit added)
Former creator of CUSTOM CLARINET TUNING BARRELS by DR. ALLAN SEGAL
-Where the Sound Matters Most(tm)-
Post Edited (2007-01-17 13:31)
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Author: tictactux ★2017
Date: 2007-01-17 13:47
> I hope Mr. R's reeds are more substantial than his web design.
> The old site (the one with the stripes) gave me a headache.
There he is in good company... :-/
--
Ben
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Author: sherman
Date: 2007-01-18 17:28
No Bob, they are indeed hard rubber. What was the problem with the clarinet you got from him? Not "impressed"? If you have "the highest respect", then one would suggest that you define your terms. Why were you not impressed?
Post Edited (2007-01-18 17:30)
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Author: Bubalooy
Date: 2007-01-18 21:17
I've got two boxes of his reeds in front of me, but, I haven't tried them yet. I love the atg "system" though. I don't think I'll have to buy new reeds again for years as I've got many boxes of old vandorens and oliveiris that didn't play but will now.
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Author: FDF
Date: 2007-01-18 23:16
Hey Carrie, nice thread. Shows how dependent we are on good reeds.
Post Edited (2007-01-18 23:38)
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Author: Antonio
Date: 2007-01-24 20:43
I was also not impressed with Ridenour Lyrique clarinet. I had a chance to test play the Bb Custom RCP-576bc horn. The only part which appears to be hand-reamed is the barrel, while the upper and lower joints were definitely poured into the mold. Secondly, the keywork looks and feels very low-tech, making me wonder how frequently would it need to be readjusted. By the way, the clarinet is made in China. Durability may be an issue.
Post Edited (2007-01-24 20:44)
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Author: BobD
Date: 2007-01-24 22:07
Sherm: Picking up on this old thread! As it turned out....I finally found the "right" mouthpiece which solved all my problems. As a result I can now say I am happy with the T147.......AND.....am impressed with it.
Bob Draznik
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Author: Brenda ★2017
Date: 2007-01-25 01:36
Yes, I´ve tried them. They came several months ago under a special introductory rate, so I have 5 each of Encore and Eroica. After giving them about a week of treatment to break them in gradually, my initial opinion was very favourable, I really felt confident playing on them. But they appeared to become softer with use. I´ve been rotating between these and my usual Zonda reeds and at the moment still prefer the Zondas. How much of this is me and how much is the reed....
I have yet to apply the ATG to them and maybe they´ll become very good again.
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Author: scott kurtzweil
Date: 2007-01-27 20:14
I had a chance to try the prototypes the last time Tom came here to the office. They were pretty darn good and of course "well balanced". I found the tips to be a little heavy for set up but that proved to be an easy fix. Once we get through this chapter 11 nonsense, I'll likely begin to offer them
Scott Kurtzweil
Kurtzweil Musical LLC
www.kurtzweilmusical.com
269-340-9013
scott@kurtzweilmusical.com
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