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Author: Connor
Date: 2005-12-14 19:44
As of late, i have become interested in a new mouthpiece. How are the Bradford Behn “Artist” Mouthpieces or any other replica mouthpiece?
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Author: Stewie Griffin
Date: 2005-12-14 21:04
What Connor wanted to know about was the Artist line, not the Vintage the Dr. Segal reviewed.
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Author: GBK
Date: 2005-12-14 21:38
Stewie Griffin wrote:
> What Connor wanted to know about was the Artist line, not the
> Vintage the Dr. Segal reviewed.
No...The original question asked:
"...How are the Bradford Behn “Artist” Mouthpieces or any other replica mouthpiece?..."
The mouthpiece reviewed was the Vintage line, a replica mouthpiece.
...GBK
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Author: DAVE
Date: 2005-12-14 23:09
I played one of these briefly last week. From the look of it, the baffle was extensively worked. Its response was very nice, however, the pitch was nearly 30 cents flat. I suspect the baffle work lowered the pitch this much. Very dissapointing.
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Author: donald
Date: 2005-12-15 22:33
"DAVE" i have not had the opportunity to play these mouthpieces yet, but i find your comments on the intonation suprising. Enlargement of the mouthpiece bore will flatten the short tube notes in the fundamental register while sharpening some notes (flattening others) in the upper registers.... it will not flatten the whole instrument uniformly over its range, and to flatten even the throat tones as much as 30c by taking material from the baffle would be a fairly major undertaking.
what kind of mouthpiece is your regular setup? what kind of clarinet do you play? what strength reeds did you use? do you play with a focussed "classical" sound or a jazz/folk soud that is less refined (it's ok, i do understand that some jazz players like a tone that is very focussed and refined)
It does sound to me as though you may have been using reeds that were too soft.
While i have had my dissagreements with Brad over the years where intonation is concerned (a mouthpiece blank that was too sharp to use) i find it very hard to believe that he's managed to produce a mouthpiece that is "nearly 30 cents flat". I'm sure that it would not be in his interest to do so, either....
donald
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Author: DAVE
Date: 2005-12-16 00:45
I just wanted to clarify my statements for all of you considering one of these mouthpieces.
Apparently, the particular ONE that I played was modified from a Vandoren 13 series blank that naturally plays a little lower. It also was drastically longer and more open than the one I regularly play. I think this was done in order to accomidate the super hard reeds that my friend, the owner of the mouthpiece, plays. This is most likely not the standard type of mouthpiece that Mr. Behn is offering and I hope my comments on the one mouthpiece I played will not prejudice anyone from trying what Mr. Behn has to offer.
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Author: Brad Behn
Date: 2005-12-16 01:09
Donald,
Thanks for your support. I discussed with Dave (offline) some of your points and he was good enough to help me understand his perspective. I have no beef with David and I thank him for his input to this list.
The mouthpiece he tried, I made for a customer last summer at the OU Clarinet Symposium. This customer plays (and freely admits) that he plays VERY hard reeds. I offered a bunch of mouthpieces for him to try and he liked that one because it played in tune for him and because it responded well with his reeds. The facing was a 110 LL (110 tip and very long and free resistance curve). The blank I used was a 13 series Vandoren and I never touched the baffle. I think you are correct, Dave's reeds did not work on that mouthpiece because they were too soft for the facing. Indeed, the 13 series Vandoren mouthpieces are perhaps the lowest playing mouthpieces on the market. Combine that with a very free facing, and the results will even be lower (on soft reeds).
The interesting thing is that the person who plays on my mouthpiece is so happy with it that he just ordered another one exactly like it. He is a happy customer and that is what matters to me.
It goes to show you that there are many different types of players and concepts. My job as a mouthpeice maker is to make something that works for the player...not necessarily the person that is sitting next to the player in rehearsal.
Mouthpieces are a very personal thing. I have worked with players of all different perspectives. Some use hard reeds with lots of air, and others use softer reeds with less air. The fun thing is when we work together and find their ideal solution.
Brad Behn
hrefhttp://www.behnmouthpieces.com
Brad Behn
http://www.clarinetmouthpiece.com
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Author: DAVE
Date: 2005-12-16 01:38
Brad is right. My friend with the hard reeds (Steur Advantage #4s) LOVES the mouthpiece.
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Author: terry
Date: 2005-12-16 14:25
more Chedeville info at:
http://sterkel.org/clarinet/index.htm
1929 matched A and Bb Herman Todt Clarinets, Chadash Mouthpiece, Fogietta reeds, http://sterkel.org/clarinet
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