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Author: Greek Style
Date: 2005-12-13 14:14
Does Anybody know where i can find scales for Albert System Clarinet's. Are there any on the net?
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Author: Terry Stibal
Date: 2005-12-13 15:42
Well, the scales for the "Albert" horn are much the same as those for any other horn. However, I think that there may be a language problem at work here, so I'm going to assume that you are looking for studies that are designed for the player of the Albert system rather than for the Boehm/Klose one.
In that case, there was at least one older English method that was written for the clarinet by a performer on the Albert system. I don't recall the name, however. Originally, I thought it was the Kell method, but he's too modern to have been an Albert player.
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Post Edited (2005-12-13 15:46)
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Author: Kalakos
Date: 2005-12-13 18:46
Hello:
Maybe by "scales" you mean a fingering chart? If so, they are available on the net; perhaps one of our list mates can give you the url. Or do a search here on this site. If by "scales" you mean the modes (oi dromoi) of Greek folk music, you'll need to do a google search for Greek modes (although we really learn them by ear, not from sheet music).
Good luck.
Kalakos
Kalakos Music
http://www.TAdelphia.com
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Author: Grant
Date: 2005-12-13 19:24
Lazarus wrote his method for Albert and Boehm system. He played an Albert because he said he was too old to change.His method used to have both charts but mine is 50 years old and I haven,t looked at any recently.
HAPPY NUTCRACKER SEASON TO ANY OF YOU DOING THAT GIG.
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Author: ron b
Date: 2005-12-13 20:03
I believe the Rubank beginner method book has both Boehm and Albert charts, Greek.
As Kalakos says, there are numerous ones available to you almost instantly on the 'web' and they're free and printer-friendly. Try that first. If you don't find what you're looking for contact me offline. As a lifelong Albert player (yes, there are still a few of us out here  ), I have several fingering charts. I'll be happy to mail a copy of one to you.
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Author: Greek Style
Date: 2005-12-14 09:23
Yes i know kalakos, thats how i learned them, by ear on the boehm, but i just wonder if any exist. Just for fun. Thanks for the help guys. Ok ron that would be very nice of you.
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Author: Terry Stibal
Date: 2005-12-14 15:48
Even for the experienced player, a run through a fingering chart will often reveal things that were just not learned.
I amazed and astounded a sax player who had taken up clarinet (and was a pretty good player in the bargain) when I showed him the "long Eb/Bb" fingering. He was having some troubles with arpeggi that were revolving around that note, and had never thought to use what he had been told was a horrible fingering on the saxophone. (I don't think it's that bad on the sax, but what do I, who never saw Marcel Mule in the flesh, know?)
I had the same problem with the left-hand plateau keys on the sax, where on most horns you can play G# with any of the keys in the table. (Don't try it on a Conn, however...) Since I learned sax "on my own", I had to have someone schooled on the horn to show me that.
Particularly on "simple" system derived horns (both Albert and Oehler), there are some fancy ways to get around the "little finger" problems with various "patent" mechanisms. These are not always apparent from a cursory examination of the keywork, and a fingering chart will usually point these out if they exist.
My copy of the Rubank Elementary Method still gets used when I haul the Albert horn out for a spin. (It's the one where the Albert horn on the fingering chart looks normal, and the Boehm horn is a funky looking metal clarinet; imagine all of the youngsters who have been confused by that over the years.) It cost me all of $1.00 at much beloved-Hunleth Music, now a long-gone feature of days gone by...
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