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Author: sgrubbs
Date: 2005-12-11 05:37
So what fingering should I use for the high Bb and the high F right before that? Isn't there a place on this website where there are articles about different pieces?
Thanks.
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Author: Morrigan
Date: 2005-12-11 06:00
The F should be the 'closed' one - Thumb, register key, all six fingers on the front and the C#/G# key, then put down the F/C key in the right hand for the high Bb. Maybe someone can do you a little fingering chart.
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Author: Ralph G
Date: 2005-12-11 06:05
I performed this back in April.
I used RT G# xxx C#|xxxF for the high Bb (basically a middle C with the throat G# key and left pinky C#/G# key).
For the F preceding it, I used the long F (clarion D with the left pinky C#/G# key).
I actually had more trouble with the altissimo A in the run preceding the Bb run. Eventually I was able to use the short F (RT oxx C#) before the A, then simply overblow the same fingering up to the high A. This may just be unique to my clarinet, but that is now my standard fingering for the altissimo A.
Here's a thread with even more suggestions:
http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/read.html?f=1&i=147305&t=147285
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Post Edited (2005-12-11 06:10)
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Author: GBK
Date: 2005-12-11 15:43
The fingerings outlined by Ken Shaw and others are the most preferred and used in these passages. For most players these will work quite successfully.
However, for the students who have had continuous trouble reaching the high Bb (<50% success rate), I have found that using the following fingering suggestion to be worth trying.
Finger the high F with the standard (not closed) fingering:
TR oxx (C#/G#) / ooo (Ab/Eb)
and then play the Bb using:
R (no thumb) oxx / ooo (Ab/Eb)
...GBK
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Author: bass9396
Date: 2005-12-11 18:42
You could...could....use the same "standard" fingering for both F and Bb. TR o x x C# / o o o
Then voicing and all that junk comes into play. I've never played the Weber 2, but if it's an arpeggio or really involved, using the same fingering may help.
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Author: GBK
Date: 2005-12-11 18:53
bass9396 wrote:
> You could...could....use the same "standard" fingering for both
> F and Bb. TR o x x C# / o o o
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> Then voicing and all that junk comes into play.
If you overblow an F6 to get a Bb6 you'll need a little more than voicing and "all that junk" (your words) to bring it up to pitch.
The Bb6 will be VERY flat.
At the minimum, adding the throat G# key to the "standard" F6 fingering will help raise the pitch of Bb6, but it will still leave it a bit low.
There are better solutions...GBK
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Author: bass9396
Date: 2005-12-11 19:08
Glad to know you respect my opinion so much.
Read my post. I didn't say the fingerings were full-proof and you don't play my Clarinet or my setup so how would you know if that note is very flat for me or not (it isn't). If I'm not allowed to have a different opinion than you just let me know. It's seeming more and more that way everyday.
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Author: Morrigan
Date: 2005-12-11 21:26
Yeah this Bboard is like that. I replied with the generally agreed-upon fingerings then about four other people did the same. It's good that people posted alternatives too - I've known some people who couldn't use the high Bb I suggested; either too unstable or too out of tune.
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Author: Bassie
Date: 2005-12-12 12:19
In my experience, different clarinets need different fingerings. One ensemble I was in, the whole clarinet section was kicked out to go and get their (our) act together in the corridor outside. We screeched like cats for a while - and when we came back we were ALL playing different fingerings for those altissimo notes.
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