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Author: Kevin
Date: 2005-12-09 02:57
December 1st has passed, and that was the deadline for most American conservatories. January 1st is rapidly approaching, and that's the deadline for many regular schools. Therefore, I figure that all of you high school seniors should have already arrived at a "final" list of schools. Would you mind to share that list here?
Mine were (I'm a composition major, applied minor in clarinet):
New England Conservatory
Eastman (I spent 3 weeks in their summer program for HS)
Peabody (I have a good friend attending there)
Mannes (I'm in its PreCollege division)
SUNY Purchase
SUNY Stony Brook (already accepted)
(4/10/06 - changed title from "to High School Seniors: Where are you appling?" to current)
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Author: Clarinetgirl06
Date: 2005-12-09 03:56
I'm staying local. I have absolutely no money to go anywhere over $7,000 a year. I will most definately be going to a great school for my Master's (Thinking OU, Michigan State, Yale, or Eastman)
I'm 99% sure attending the UMKC (University of Missouri- Kansas City)Conservatory of Music and studying with Jane Carl.
I would love to go to OU and study with David Etheridge, but I don't have $20,000 a year to pay for that. UMKC is $6,000 a year for me (before any scholarships, which I know I am getting around $2000+ in per year just for academics.) and I can go to UMKC for 4 years for the same price as 1 year at OU. I also refuse to take out loans. I get all of my core classes for free from a Community College (Longview, which by the way is America's #1 Community College ranked by some official ranking people.) so that's another $2000 off of college in my 4 years. So, I think I'll be financially stable to start a future after college. I mean, who wants to be paying off their loans still when they are over 30? Not me!
Oh well. Now I won't feel as bad for buying a new barrel and maybe a Ton Kooiman thumbrest. I'm saving $45,000! What's just $350 compared to that? Almost nothing!
Also, isn't where you get your Master's degree more important than your Bachelors? Any opinions pro or con on this?
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Author: cKaSully16
Date: 2005-12-09 15:42
Hey, my name's Kyle and I live in Dayton, Ohio. I'm planning on auditioning at:
Miami University (Oxford, Ohio)
Bowling Green State University
Ohio State University.
I plan on majoring in music education. I've only met Bowling Green's clarinet professor, but I intened to set up lessons with the professors at the other schools as well..
"Music is the silence between the notes."
-Claude Debussy
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Author: BassClarinetGirl
Date: 2005-12-09 15:47
I'm waiting on a decision at Carleton College, but I'm going into political science. However, they do have a nice music department, and I plan to be involved, probably with an orchestra or wind group of some nature. Concordia college and St. Olaf are two very good musical schools in Minnesota as well.
BCG
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Author: Tyler
Date: 2005-12-09 18:02
I'm applying to the University of Oklahoma at Norman, which has a wonderful clarinet studio for undergraduate study. I have been accepted at the University of Kansas and the University of Nebraska at Lincoln. Still gotta fill out the appl for OU, though.
-Tyler
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Author: Jack Kissinger
Date: 2005-12-10 04:44
Tyler,
You could do alot worse than studying with Larry Maxey at KU. If you do, make sure you learn P.D.Q. Bach's "Piece for Muted Clarinet and Tape."
Best regards,
jnk
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Author: clarnibass
Date: 2005-12-10 05:15
Kevin, I know one graduate from New England and two people who are studying there right now, and they all like it a lot.
Good luck.
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Author: Aaron
Date: 2005-12-10 05:58
I'm in a Chicago suburb.
I'm applying to:
Depaul, Eastman, U of Michigan, Northwestern
And also U of I for psychology in case I fail and don't get into any of those schools.
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Author: Bradley
Date: 2005-12-10 09:37
the Cleveland Institute (already applied)
the Eastman School (already applied)
McGill University's Schulich School
the Oberlin Conservatory
the Peabody Conservatory
and the University of Florida (already auditioned yesterday).
Bradley
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Author: ajhogan
Date: 2005-12-11 06:34
I have finished all my applications and I am know focusing all my attention on my auditions.
Boston Conservatory
Cleveland Institute of Music
Eastman School of Music
Peabody Conservatory
U. of Michigan (Ann Arbor)
UCLA
San Francisco Conservatory (local)
My first audition is in Los Angeles on January 5th for Eastman.
Austin
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Author: Clarinetgirl06
Date: 2005-12-11 19:35
Julliard, lol! I don't want to be into that fierce a competition. I want to be around great players and be challenged, but I don't want to hate playing because the people are so competitive. I think I'd go crazy with it all and that I would feel bad about myself. I would like to study with Larry Guy though!
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Author: bass9396
Date: 2005-12-11 19:42
I had a friend recommend getting a Grad Degree from Julliard because of the competitiveness. His thinking was that if you were in there getting a Graduate Degree you wouldn't have as much of a problem with the competitive environment, since you'd already pretty much chosen to live in that world anyways. As an undergrad, you might change your mind.
I couldn't have imagined going to any kind of conservatory. I just wanted to play my little Bass Clarinet and be left alone. Being at a school where there are zillions of non-music majors playing gives you opportunities to just be around more people and play in more groups (especially chamber ensembles.) It also gives you a perspective on playing, because it's not the only thing going on. I liked it that way.
Ok, my two cents.
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Author: Kevin
Date: 2005-12-11 19:44
I've spent a lot of time around Juilliard, and I'm looking to the next four years as a time to take off and get a change of scenery. When I apply to graduate school though, Juilliard will then likely be the 1st choice.
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Author: clarispark
Date: 2005-12-12 02:10
It all depends on where you're from, I'd suppose. I couldn't afford to leave Michigan for college so I'm at Central Michigan University. I might even stay somewhat local for graduate school--Michigan State, maybe--but that's going to be a while from now. I'm in the first year of a five-year music education program and probably not going to grad school anytime in the next ten years.
"I look at my clarinet sometimes and I think, I wonder what's going to come out of there tonight? You never know." --Acker Bilk
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Author: Kevin
Date: 2006-04-11 00:33
Believe it or not....it is already the middle of April, and that means for most of you, college decision letters have finished rolling in. Once you get past your initial stages of dissapointment or excitement, I think many on this board would be curious to know of the autumn destinations of the high school seniors and last-year undergrads here.
As for me...
I was accepted into the clarinet studio of Dan Gilbert at SUNY Stony Brook, the composition studio of Suzanne Farrin at SUNY Purchase, the composition program (teacher not yet known, but likely Hyla or Gandolfi) at New England Conservatory, and the composition studio of newcomer Kevin Puts at the Peabody. I was denied admission to Eastman (where I did not pass prescreening) and Mannes (where I blew up on the lengthy theory exams, quite detrimental to us composition majors).
NEC is my decision.
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Author: Clarinetgirl06
Date: 2006-04-11 01:06
As I stated above, I'm now officially going to the UMKC Conservatory of Music and double majoring in music education and clarinet performance. I'll be studying under Dr. Jane Carl who seems to be a fine professor.
I only have to pay around $2000 per year now for college, which is nice. I still haven't heard back yet from FAFSA (which I qualify for a Pell Grant) and many independent scholarships, so I could have a full ride!
I'm happy with my decision and I know that I will receive a great education and will gain a lot from it if I put in the maximum amount of effort!
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Author: cKaSully16
Date: 2006-04-11 02:42
Hey everyone. I will be attending Bowling Green State University in Ohio. I'm majoring in music education and my clarinet professor will be Mr. Kevin Schempf. From taking a few lessons with him, he seems like a great teacher and has made me so much better just in the few times I've seen him.
Congrats to everyone else on their college admissions!
-Kyle
"Music is the silence between the notes."
-Claude Debussy
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Author: DHsu87
Date: 2006-04-11 03:26
I am going to USC to study with Yehuda Gilad as a undergrad freshman. I received a half off scholarship, so it won't be too expensive.
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Author: ClariTone
Date: 2006-04-11 03:45
I will be attending PSU (KS) as a music education major in the fall of '06. The music department at PSU is really good and Dr. Britz is AMAZING, plus I got a full ride!!! That way I will be debt free when pursuing my masters degree in either music education or clarinet performance.
Clayton
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Author: mtague
Date: 2006-04-11 06:38
Dhsu, I hoped you applied for the calgrant. It's a pretty nice grant if you're going to a private college (at least, it was when I was going to college). Even half off, USC is pricey.
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Author: DHsu87
Date: 2006-04-11 07:08
Mtague,
Funny thing you should mention the Cal Grant because I was just looking through it. However I did not receive any money because supposedly our family's assets or income is over the ceiling. I don't know how that can be, except maybe my dad has a lot of assets in the stock market.
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Author: mtague
Date: 2006-04-11 18:23
Well, you can try for it every year you're in college, I think. Just fill out the FAFSA and that should also put you in for the calgrant. I was told the calgrant isn't mainly need based, but mostly grade based. At least, that's what a counselor told me.
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Author: Max S-D
Date: 2006-04-12 22:00
I think the Cal Grant has two parts, one that is need-based and one that is merit-based. I could be wrong. They didn't give me any money. There's not a lot of scholarship money for upper middle-class white males. That's ok, though.
Next year I'll be studying clarinet with Wayne Bennet at the University of Oregon, Mark Brandenburg at UC Santa Cruz or Fan Lei at the Lawrence University Conservatory of Music.
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Author: thechosenone
Date: 2006-04-14 16:06
I have heard from a reliable source that 100+ clarinets auditioned at Juilliard and not a single one was accepted. Talk about fierce competition!
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Author: Clarinetgirl06
Date: 2006-04-14 22:38
Fierce about Juilliard. Man, you think that they would want to at least keep the same number of clarinets they had the last year, so any that graduated or transferred, their spots would be open. Seriously, if that is true, do any of us have any hope of being "good enough"?
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Author: Aussie Nick
Date: 2006-04-15 16:32
What is Manhattan School of Music like? I've heard good things about it. And what about University of Northern Texas. I hear they have some really big music school.
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Author: Kevin
Date: 2006-04-15 16:45
MSM is among the top 10 or so conservatories in America. Alan Kay, David Krakauer, Charles Neidich, and Mark Nuccio are its clarinet teachers. UNT has also recently been quickly moving up the ladder in its reputation as a great clarinet school.
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Author: Max S-D
Date: 2006-04-15 16:51
I didn't find out that Krakauer taught at MSM and Mannes until it was too late to apply/audition. He's one of my heroes, and if you get a chance to study with someone like him, do it!
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Author: Kevin
Date: 2006-04-15 17:51
Max, I agree. Though I've never had a lesson with Mr. Krakauer, I've been to two of his masterclasses, and he's a very animated, likeable character that's great at communicating his musical thoughts.
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Author: Ashlee'
Date: 2006-04-16 03:01
Yes, the fact that Juilliard didn't accept any clarinetists this year is bad enough. But, imagine the feeling of being first on the waiting list (a graduating HS senior) for a spot that doesn't exist.
To continue the discussion about Mannes, MSM and professors, all three professors are amazing and inspiring individuals. Professor Neidich is definitely one of the best teachers I have come across (next to Igor Begelman). Although I'm not too thrilled about MSM, it has produced many numerous notable players (including Begelman). Mannes, on the other hand, I was very impressed with. Not only the teachers, but the small community and high impressive skill of all their students. Once you take the entrance/placement theory exam, you have a new level of respect for their theory program!
Unless Juilliard creates a spot within the next few weeks (which isn't impossible), I will be attending Mannes studying under Professor Neidich.
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Author: Kevin
Date: 2006-04-16 03:07
Ashlee' wrote:
> Once you take the entrance/placement theory exam [at mannes],
> you have a new level of respect for their theory program!
Amen to that!
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Author: thechosenone
Date: 2006-04-16 03:19
It is very interesting that they did not accept any new clarinets. Possibly the current studio of undergrads is very large (around 12) and they feel it is too big, or Neidich simply did not really take a liking to anyone's playing. The former seems to be a more valid theory, as 8!! freshmen flutists were accepted this year. However, this is given that only 6 or so flutes were current undergraduates, so they needed a lot more.
Yes, it must be horrible being 1st alternate on a spot that doesn't exist.
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Author: Al
Date: 2006-04-16 23:29
Dan Gilbert is fabulous!
Great teacher...amazing player!
I haven't read through all the comments yet, but don't forget about Indiana University- Bloomington! They just received a huge donation from the Jacobs Family.....much of which is being funnelled into sholarship money. Great clarinet faculty!
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Author: xxColorMeJoshxx
Date: 2006-05-04 19:19
Dshu Im extremely jealous, I'd love to go to USC next year -- How many openings were there this past year??
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Author: DareWreck8402
Date: 2006-05-04 20:07
I got into University of Colorado-Boulder for performance as a graduate student. I also got into University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee for performance as well. Todd Levy is the clarinet instructor and he's also the principal of the Milwaukee Symphony Orchestra and sounds fantastic. Check out his site. http://www.toddlevy.org/ That is who I will be studying with this fall. Woo!
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Author: Kevin
Date: 2006-05-05 00:33
DareWreck8402,
Todd Levy is incredible. Having seen him give a masterclass, heard him perform solo live, and briefly listened to some recordings, I'm sure UW-Milwaukee will be a terrific experience.
And that Girl-With-Flaxen-Hair on his website is sublime.
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Author: DHsu87
Date: 2006-05-06 01:17
xxColorMeJoshxx,
From what I learned when I talked to some clarinetists there, there are already about 16 clarinetists in Gilad's studio. Also, I talked to one of the admissions officers and she said that very few clarinetists got in. I really don't think there are a certain number of spots though. I think he'll accept as many people as he wants.
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Author: Max S-D
Date: 2006-05-06 02:38
Next year, I'm studying Clarinet performance with Mark Brandenburg at UC Santa Cruz.
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Author: Bradley
Date: 2006-05-06 18:18
Most likely I will be studying Clarinet Performance at McGill University's Schulich School of Music this Fall. Studios aren't confirmed until the start of the first semester, but I will be with Bob Crowley or Alain Desgagne.
I am still interested in Mr. Hawkins' studio at Oberlin, so I'm waiting to hear about my wait list status. I really doubt CIM's wait list will be used, but I haven't heard anything final from them either for Mr. Cohen's studio.
I will probably be in Montreal in some months.
Bradley
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