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Author: natt12321
Date: 2005-11-28 23:58
Is there anyone who would be able to tell me how to do this, I am a yr11 student and one of the pieces i started playing the other day requires me to 'growl' and my woodwind teacher being primarily a flute player just looked at me blankly, I know what it shoudl sound like however am unable to work out how to achieve this sound, so could some one who can explain it please do? many thanks, natt.
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Author: Super Mario
Date: 2005-11-29 01:07
would it happen to be vesuvius? i dunno thats just the first song that came to mind when you said drowling. or growling.
do you know how to roll your r's or just kinda roll your toungue in any way? like in the back of your throat? well, if you do that, and blow really super hard, you get kind of a growling sound. its hard to do on the clarinet, at least i think so due to the strict embouchure, unlike the sax. drop your jaw, do that, and blow hard enough so that it doesn't come out as a gentle purr.
haha, i dont think i can explain it.
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Author: GoatTnder
Date: 2005-11-29 01:32
The rolling your tongue thing is called flutter tonguing, and will work if you can't make the growl sound right. Growling is different. When you play, hum into the clarinet. Hum as hard as you can so that you still get enough air to move the reed. It's pretty difficult at first but does get easier eventually. And eventually you'll learn to do it without humming so loudly. Good luck!
Andres Cabrera
South Bay Wind Ensemble
sbwe@sbmusic.org
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Author: Paul Aviles
Date: 2005-11-29 11:41
"Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr, mercy."
.........Roy Orbison - "Pretty Woman"
Now just do that with the clarinet in your mouth.
..........Paul Aviles
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Author: natt12321
Date: 2005-11-29 22:33
thanks for the response, i will have to try these out in the morning. And no it is not versuvius it is called Hard Rock Blues i think.
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Author: sinkdraiN
Date: 2005-11-30 00:26
GoatTnder is correct. You hum or sing into the mouthpiece as you play the note. Don't confuse growling with flutter tonguing.
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Author: Super Mario
Date: 2005-11-30 01:12
hm my apologies. i thought growling was something different. sorry for the confusion
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Author: Clarinetgirl06
Date: 2005-11-30 02:03
My favorite thing to do with growling:
Play an open G, but hum a G#. Now with your left hand, put it in the air an pull and imaginary rope of a train and make the cool "tooooooooot, tooooooooooot". So fun!
I'm also trying to learn songs with growling. I'll play the melody and then sing the harmony. I have the first little theme of "Three Blind Mice" down pat! Try it, it's challenging yet fun!
Post Edited (2005-11-30 02:05)
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Author: pzaur
Date: 2005-11-30 02:46
A good practice technique to learn how to "growl" is to hum while blowing air out of your mouth. You should be able to put your hand in front of you mouth and feel a good stream of air coming out. Normally, when you hum, you don't really feel any air out coming of your mouth.
When you're growling, you will probably also need to hum different notes if you're changing pitches on the clarinet. When I've done this, I've noticed that I can "cancel" a note I'm playing by humming particular pitches. Nothing comes out! I haven't taken the time to figure out the particular interval that causes this.
Play around with pitches that you hum when playing. The pitches you hum will affect how much "growl" you get in your sound.
-pat
Fixed spelling in edit.
Post Edited (2005-11-30 02:48)
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Author: sfalexi
Date: 2005-11-30 21:48
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When you're growling, you will probably also need to hum different notes if you're changing pitches on the clarinet. When I've done this, I've noticed that I can "cancel" a note I'm playing by humming particular pitches. Nothing comes out! I haven't taken the time to figure out the particular interval that causes this. Perhaps it's because the waves that you are producing are the exact opposite of the waves the clarinet reed is producing. In the music world, if you take a sample of a tone, it's a constant wave. If you start that same tone, with the same wave exactly 1/2 a phase later, the two waves will cancel themselves out and you won't hear anything.
A visual example.
If you're pretty darned close, it might work.
Incidentally, there are now very sophisticated (and expensive) headphones out there which apply this principle to help cancel outside noises while trying to listen to your music. It works best where there's a constant ambient noise which has more or less a constant wave (think it can cancel out the sound of the engine at a more or less constant RPM - an airplane was given as an example on it's label, or if you're by the computer and have the whirring of the fans, etc. etc.) And it does just that. It will figure out the amplitude, frequency, and phase and simply attempt to reproduce it exactly 1/2 phase later which will (in a perfect world) completely eliminate the ambient noise that you are hearing and leave ONLY the music.
CNET Review of one such noise-canceling model
Alexi
US Army Japan Band
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