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Author: Ken Mills
Date: 2005-09-21 02:09
Towards the definitive equipment to promote no such thing in us! The Otto Link ligature is made only for the sax mpc. The single screw pushes down on a tiny plate that makes contact with the reed at its edges, the top and bottom of the concave plate against the reed, in other words. There is freedom or looseness in the screw's interface with the plate so that it makes even forces against the surface of contact with the reed, and it is so convenient to use. The definitive scandal, I think, I don't know, Ken Mills
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Author: David Spiegelthal ★2017
Date: 2005-09-21 03:54
The problem with Link ligatures is that the reed can slide and twist around on top of the mouthpiece table quite a bit -- I've never liked them for that reason. There have been similar ligs made for clarinet in the past, I have one -- mine is silver-plated and made of thicker metal and with less slop than the Link sax ligs, so this particular clarinet lig works pretty well. But basically the design looks better on paper than it works in practice, mainly because of the inevitable manufacturing tolerances.
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2005-09-21 08:46
The best of these vice-type ligs by far is the Lawton one - I might experiment by milling some slots parallel to the table of a clarinet mouthpiece to see if a bari sax version might fit.
The Francois Louis lig is pretty much like a Link lig.
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Author: Ed
Date: 2005-09-21 12:08
"The Francois Louis lig is pretty much like a Link lig."
I believe the sax version uses that type screw set up, but the clarinet one uses a different set up with a single screw (like a Rovner) on top.
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2005-09-21 12:55
HAHAHA! Sorry, I just remembered seeing someone last night using a Rovner lig on the wrong way round, and upside down too!
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Author: Don Berger
Date: 2005-09-21 13:34
I have an OLD lig !!, saying, [dating it] on its back, Brevet SGDG [which implies a patent to me, but who/where?], then, France, Penzel Mueller New York Paris, below. It is a two-screw variety with a pressure plate held by two "holy" ears in the screw "gaps", with enough adjustability to firmly hold the reed to the table. I like using it, its more secure than the Luyben and even the Bonade [invert], my other favs. Not having seen the Link, it sounds like the L is a one-screw version. Will look for patent info, several of the more recent lig pats have "laundry lists" of the earlier, cited, ?commercialized?, good ideas. Don
Thanx, Mark, Don
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2005-09-21 13:55
Sounds like that's where Vandoren got their inspiration for the Optimum lig, but went for the single screw instead.
All the pressure plate type clarinet ligs I've seen have been of the thin metal type.
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Author: Don Berger
Date: 2005-09-21 17:18
As Archimedes said, EUREKA ! The patent to Mueller [US, NYC] on my above ?described? lig is US 2, 648,246 which I found via its reference in Bonade, 2,791,929. The 2-screw design is shown so its a good possibility [to me] that a pat examiner would not grant a newer pat on a 1-screw design with the elimination of the function of the 2nd screw !! Couldn't find anything re: Link [yet?]. 'Nuff for now? Don
Thanx, Mark, Don
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Author: sfalexi
Date: 2005-09-21 21:13
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HAHAHA! Sorry, I just remembered seeing someone last night using a Rovner lig on the wrong way round, and upside down too! Don't laugh it off! The rovner catalogue clearly states that it can be used "regular" or "inverted". Meaning that it's MEANT to be used either with the screw on the bac of the mouthpiece, OR on the front. I noticed this yesterday, and tried it with the screw on the side of the reed (with the bars "pinching" the reed onto the mouthpiece, rather than the fabric pulling it tight), and think (whether subliminally or not), that it might be a better choice for me. And I'm going to continue experimenting with it.
Alexi
US Army Japan Band
Post Edited (2005-09-21 21:44)
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Author: Don Berger
Date: 2005-09-21 22:11
Alexi - I've been trying to point this out for quite some time, its the way I like to use a Rovner type. I refer to it as holding-down the reed "ala-Bonade". Try it , you skeptics. Don
Thanx, Mark, Don
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Author: Gandalfe
Date: 2005-09-21 22:39
That was my first thought too. I like the screw on top. Many of my students would think the standard placement was wrong because they have copied me. It just happens to work for me.
Jim and Suzy
Pacifica Big Band
Seattle, Washington
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