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Author: Iacuras
Date: 2005-08-25 00:24
There was a VHS recording of this peice done by the CSO in the late '80's I think. It is one of my favorites but I can't seem to find it. Does anyone know where I can find it?
Steve
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Author: Joel K.
Date: 2005-08-25 00:39
There are two used copies available at Amazon.Com. Both are under 10 dollars. It was released in 1992.
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Author: Don Berger
Date: 2005-08-25 01:30
I'm sure there are many good recordings of this famous work, both the early piano, and the fabulous orchestration. Ravel?. Cls are prominent, I just love "The Old Castle"'s alto sax solos. We tried playing it in our local symp, sure made us work !! Don
Thanx, Mark, Don
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Author: diz
Date: 2005-08-25 01:44
Don ... it's one of the more tricky pieces in the repertoire ... certainly puts amateur string players on their toes.
Without music, the world would be grey, very grey.
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Author: bflatclarinetist
Date: 2005-08-25 02:12
I played a "watered-down" version of it in Concert Band. I like the Hut of Baba Yaga, it's fun. My favourite theme is the Ballet of the unhatched chicks.
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Author: DavidBlumberg
Date: 2005-08-25 03:02
Alessandro Carbonare has on his website a woodwind quintet version of it for streaming.
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2005-08-25 09:25
I heard a flute player once comment about how wonderful it was to hear the Old Castle alto sax solo played without any vibrato at all by the local youth orchestra - makes me wonder why they wasted time getting an alto sax player in to do it when they could have easily got any clarinet player or even a horn player to do it and have the same effect, if that's the effect (or lack of it) they wanted.
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Author: Don Berger
Date: 2005-08-25 13:16
My other fav. A S piece is in L'Arlesienne, where the sax is, IMHO, far more expressive than the {suggested} cl option. I'm sure there are many more fine A S solos by French composers 1875-1925 waiting to be found and played "classically", yes no vib., BUT well in tune !! AM thots. Don
Thanx, Mark, Don
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2005-08-25 13:58
As long as they have a good tone to begin with and don't use vibrato as a means of being in tune somewhere.
I was taught to play sax with a full, solid and perfectly straight tone (in pitch terms) and to apply vibrato or lip bends after this basis was established.
I only tend to use vibrato on clarinet in Big Band situations (with a Selmer C85 120 on a Leblanc LL), otherwise I tend to try to emulate the thick (and brilliant) German sound the Berlin players have, I know with my normal setup (5RV Lyre and Selmer 9s) isn't what they use, but that's the sound I've got in my head that I want to emulate.
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Author: Alphie
Date: 2005-08-26 14:34
Chris P wrote:
"makes me wonder why they wasted time getting an alto sax player in to do it when they could have easily got any clarinet player or even a horn player to do it and have the same effect, if that's the effect (or lack of it) they wanted."
So by saying this you mean that the only difference in sound or expression between an alto sax and a clarinet or a horn is the vibrato?
Alphie
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2005-08-26 15:20
It would have been better played on either clarinet or horn in this instance as the alto sax player involved was devoid of any expression, and probably just as well vibrato wasn't involved.
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Author: bflatclarinetist
Date: 2005-08-26 16:45
Does Alessandro Carbonaire's Wind Quintet consists of a flute,oboe,bass clarinet, bassoon, and (obviously) clarinet?
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Author: Gardini
Date: 2005-08-26 16:49
My introduction to "pictures" was Emerson, Lake and Palmer's electronic rock version - way back in high school in the seventies. I have moved on to appreciating Ravel and original versions since.
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Author: Iacuras
Date: 2005-08-26 23:59
Joel K. wrote:
>There are two used copies available at Amazon.Com. Both are under 10 >dollars. It was released in 1992.
THANK YOU SO MUCH JOEL!!!!! I found the last copy at amazon. All of my friends and my band teacher are now going to be incredibly jealous of me. My band teacher has been trying to find a copy for years. Thanks again!!
Steve
"If a pretty poster and a cute saying are all it takes to motivate you, you probably have a very easy job. The kind robots will be doing soon."
"If you can't learn to do something well, learn to enjoy doing it poorly."
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Author: David Peacham
Date: 2005-08-27 13:39
David Blumberg refers to Carbonare's "woodwind quintet", but I think means "wind quintet": just the usual flute, oboe, clarinet, horn, bassoon.
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The Ravel orchestration is one of many. Leonard Slatkin has provided much entertainment by introducing and conducting "composite" performances with each movement orchestrated by a different arranger. In his introductory talk, he gets the orchestra to play short excerpts from different versions. We are used to hearing this sort of demonstration from a radio presenter with a stack of CDs, but it is quite an experience hearing it from a full orchestra. Highly recommended if he is ever conducting at a concert hall near you.
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Post Edited (2005-08-27 13:40)
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