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Author: clarinetmaniac101
Date: 2005-08-21 03:46
My friend was telling me that I should try out other clarinets besides the regular 4(Buffet,Yamaha,Leblanc and Selmer) and I said okay and I thought about what other clarinets there are and I said well the only thing I can think of was an Amati. I wanted to know what other clarinets are there besides those 5 I named(Buffet,Yamaha,Leblanc,Selmer and Amati) Thanks in advance for your post. I know all about the German system clarinets too.
Rashad
*clarinet
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Author: BassetHorn
Date: 2005-08-21 04:33
These tends to be more pricy than the big four:
Orsi and Ripamonti from Italy.
Steve Fox and Backun from Canada.
Eaton and Hanson from the U.K.
Rossi from Chile.
All Boehm systems.
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Author: DavidBlumberg
Date: 2005-08-21 05:04
Yup - Chadash Clarinet is certainly worth a try. I'd try one of those before a Yamaha or a Leblanc.
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Author: D
Date: 2005-08-21 09:50
I just got hold of a Hanson from the UK. Seems fine to me, throat tones sound just like the rest of the clarinet - brilliant! If you have cash to throw around then Hanson will pretty much make an instrument to your spec.
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2005-08-21 11:44
Do any of the current makers still offer a LH forked Eb/Bb on the upper joint?
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Author: larryb
Date: 2005-08-21 13:18
realistically, you should limit your search, if you can.
the advantage of buffet, selmer, leblanc, yamaha and amati clarinets is that they're accessible and relatively affordable. You'll drive yourself crazy if you try to sample everything, and everybody has an opinion.
do yourself a favor and sit in a room with a few of each of the five popular brands, and pick the one you like best.
If you're a dentist, or otherwise independently wealthy, and can travel to Europe, Canada and New York for a few weeks, then go ahead and try everything.
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Author: joannew
Date: 2005-08-21 15:50
While you're on the European tour, don't forget Howarth in London and Patricola in Italy.
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Author: k_leister
Date: 2005-08-21 17:39
Other Boehm system:
F.A Uebel
Herbert Wurlitzer
Leitner und Klaus
Hyraung
They make both German system and reform-Boehm clarinets.
Besides, if you wanna try out old instruments by some legendary makers, there are Oskar Oehler, Ludwig Warschewski (both Oehler system) and SML Marigaux.
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Author: GBK
Date: 2005-08-21 17:52
If you want to try the other end of the spectrum:
Laval
Rex
Monique
Wexler
Parrot
Bestler
Simba
First Act
Jinyin
Heimer
Maxtone
Venus
Grand
Steuben
Top Tone
Lark
Palatino
Elkhart Series
Johnson
...GBK
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Author: clarinetwife
Date: 2005-08-21 18:09
ARGGHHH- THE UNMENTIONABLES! The clarinets-that-shall-not-be-named!
Maybe I need to take a suggestion from the Harry Potter books and go find a nice piece of chocolate to regain my composure.
Barb
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Author: Don Berger
Date: 2005-08-21 18:13
AND there all of the various names, and some maker names! from the 1900 to the '50/60 period, more French than others. To try to answer Chris P 's ? re: forked Eb/Bb, it along with the artic. C#/G# is {I believe} still available on the Pete Fountain/Big Easy cls and possibly [special order?] on other Leblancs and perhaps other of the Big 4 makers. My early PF is a used Leb Dynamic 2 of the 50-60 era. Don
Thanx, Mark, Don
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Author: Steve Epstein
Date: 2005-08-21 18:20
Nobody has mentioned Patricola, so far. Quality, modern clarinets from from Italy, priced similarly to Buffet.
I'm going to copy and save GBK's list as a Word doc, so I can have a reference list whenever I run into someone who asks advice about this or that brand of clarinet they're thinking of buying for their kid. First Act gives me the creeps every time I see them at Wal-Mart.
Steve Epstein
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Author: GBK
Date: 2005-08-21 18:33
Steve Epstein wrote:
> I'm going to copy and save GBK's list as a Word doc, so I can
> have a reference list whenever I run into someone who asks
> advice about this or that brand of clarinet they're thinking of
> buying for their kid. First Act gives me the creeps every time
> I see them at Wal-Mart.
There are undoubtedly others I've left out.
New ones seem to surface every late summer.
Just like weeds ...GBK
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Author: jfvicente
Date: 2005-08-21 18:51
Someone have a Rossi one? I'm about to buy one (rosewood body) but don't decided yet.
Juan Francisco Vicente Becerro
Clarinet Player / teacher
Salamanca (Spain)
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Author: driftwood
Date: 2005-08-21 19:09
i have something called Kohlert. i only used it about three moths before i bought one of the 'big 4' this was in...7th grade i think...five years ago. and it was really cheap, and a mistake.
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Author: DavidBlumberg
Date: 2005-08-21 19:29
Paquito D'Rivera has a Rossi. They are quite gorgeous and play really well.
Congrats!
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Author: Max S-D
Date: 2005-08-21 22:57
I don't think anyone has mentioned Noblet. Some of my saxophonist friends have picked up old Noblets for reasonable prices as doubling horns. They play pretty well. I still prefer a good Buffet or Selmer.
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Author: larryb
Date: 2005-08-22 00:40
does Leblanc still make the "Semi-rationel" clarinet?
if so, you'd be half crazy not to test one.
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Author: javier garcia m
Date: 2005-08-22 14:52
My A is a Rossi Rosewood and French Bore. Is really marvelous. You can see more information here:
<www.rossiclarinet.cl>
Some Patricola models include forked Eb/Bb as regular features.
German clarinets (including reform-Boehm made by german makers) are more expensive than French ones.
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Author: Don Berger
Date: 2005-08-22 15:13
LarryB- I'm not sure what you mean by semi-rational cls! At least earlier Leblanc made and advertised a series of cls with 1,2,3,4 of the additions toward toward Full Boehm key configurations. Other makers did also, at least to a degree, the simpler, lesser-expensive 17/6's dominated in sales, and player acceptance, tho. I grew up on F B and still love them. Don
Thanx, Mark, Don
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Author: Lelia Loban ★2017
Date: 2005-08-23 12:26
My brother's first clarinet was a Leblanc Noblet, wood, that our parents bought used, from someone whose parents bought it new in the early 1950s. That was a good clarinet.
GBK, re. the shifting names of the cheap new CSOs, now that First Act is becoming the catch-word for low end, what do you bet the company changes the name within the next year or so? Different brand name and maybe a different color of case lining, same piece of junk....
Lelia
http://www.scoreexchange.com/profiles/Lelia_Loban
To hear the audio, click on the "Scorch Plug-In" box above the score.
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Author: GBK
Date: 2005-08-23 13:48
Lelia Loban wrote:
> GBK, re. the shifting names of the cheap new CSOs, now that
> First Act is becoming the catch-word for low end, what do you
> bet the company changes the name within the next year or so?
> Different brand name and maybe a different color of case
> lining, same piece of junk....
They may have already changed to "Paramount Sonatina"
See: http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/read.html?f=1&i=190964&t=190964 ...GBK
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Author: DavidBlumberg
Date: 2005-08-23 13:54
I don't know, it has a pretty good name now, maybe it's a good instruemtnt.
like I spelled it........
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Author: Ah Clem
Date: 2005-08-24 01:54
Off topic, but I have to ask because it was mentioned above (and because I own one...)...
How bad is the Simba?
Ah Clem
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Author: GBK
Date: 2005-08-24 02:31
Ah Clem wrote:
> Off topic, but I have to ask because it was mentioned above
> (and because I own one...)...
>
> How bad is the Simba?
Pour yourself a strong one and read this thread:
http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/read.html?f=1&i=126334&t=126323
By the way, the last time I was in Sam's Club, I must have missed the woodwind repair department. Are they located near lawn and garden supplies? ...GBK
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Author: Ah Clem
Date: 2005-08-24 04:01
GBK,
Thank you for the info. Not a problem-when I saw the price, I figured that it would be a "you get what you pay for situation" and I knew that I was not paying much. It was $99.00 from a chain store called "Tuesday Morning".
Of course, now I really don't know if the lousy sounds coming out of this thing are me or the Clarinet (I figured it was me-mostly it probably still is).
Oddly enough, if it fell apart tomorrow (and from what I have now read, that is a quite likely possibility), I will still have gotten my money's worth in enjoyment. If nothing else, it will spur me on to getting a better instrument (so now I have to figure out what that will be).
Again, thank you very much for the information.
It is much appreciated.
Ah Clem
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