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Author: chito
Date: 2005-08-20 11:12
Hi i just want to know if anybody here knows what Ricardo
Morales use clarinet mouth piece now? I attend his concert last
month in clarinet fest in tokyo his sound is amazing very lovable sound.
Im interesting to know this mouth piece thank you.
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Author: redwine
Date: 2005-08-20 12:01
Hello,
Since April, 2005, Ricardo plays a Gennusa "Excellente" mouthpiece that I customized for him, with a 117 tip opening, 34, 22, 12, 6 measurements, with a 1mm tip.
Ben Redwine, DMA
owner, RJ Music Group
Assistant Professor, The Catholic University of America
Selmer Paris artist
www.rjmusicgroup.com
www.redwinejazz.com
www.reedwizard.com
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Author: Liquorice
Date: 2005-08-20 12:39
And if you buy that mouthpiece you'll sound exactly like him... ;-)
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Author: CPW
Date: 2005-08-20 12:58
Ben:
"117 tip openning...[then says]...1mm tip"
I thought 117=1.17mm openning, or is the 117 a nomenclature for the model with 1 mm being the openning?
Modified for him....does this mean a rail width, depth of baffle, sidewall change, window size?
Having seen him/heard him in concert with the orchestra and chamber works, I note he changes equipment a lot. He used 2 different barrels (one brown with black rings and another black with brown rings) and differing bells (one standard and one Backun). Pyne lists him as using the Bel Canto mpc. Now he has a Genussa. Wonder if he is using Rico reeds still, or did he switch to Xilema? I would guess he has quite the collection of stuff.
Given my 'drothers, and not negating his abilities which are considerable, I would wish to sound more like his "teamate" Montanaro.
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Author: chito
Date: 2005-08-20 13:55
Liqourice.............
And if you buy that mouthpiece you'll sound exactly like him... ;-)
Hi I didnt say if i will buy this mouth piece my sound like morales.
Im interesting because im looking for some thing new . Also we cannot copy the sound of other players like morales
every players has different sound . Im interesting
only in this mpc. because the quality of the sound is very good .
Im not sure i saw morales in his concert used AW mpc. any body know
this ?
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Author: DavidBlumberg
Date: 2005-08-20 13:59
"I would wish to sound more like his "teamate" Montanaro."
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So I take it that you like a wimpy sound too??
Ricardo has actually over 40 pieces from Backun not just a few.
There is now a division of Backun called Backun/Morales
Post Edited (2005-08-20 14:05)
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Author: Morrie Backun
Date: 2005-08-20 15:13
Hello,
Just to try and provide an accurate answer to your question.
Ricardo Morales was playing on a custom made Morales-Backun mouthpiece at the Japanese Clarinetfest. This particular one has a series of special grooves across the table that are quite unique. I am quite sure of this as Ricardo spent several days at my shop immediatly before the convention working on the final designs which are being released for sale in limited quantity very soon. (there is already a significant backlog of orders from players who have tried them)
The mouthpieces are one of several very special accessories that we have been designing together, to offer clarinetists a range of very sophisticated equipment that has not been available previously.
This mouthpiece is available in several facings that Ricardo and I have spent a great deal of time designing, refining and measuring with state of the art computerized profile measuring machines, CNC technology and laser equipment. The goal ihas been to provide an exceptional mouthpiece which is made ACCURATELY....and not just using a simple glass gage, tip measuring tool, sandpaper and a few files. Frankly, both Ricardo and I believe that it is time for Clarinet players to get some really great equipment!
Best wishes,
Morrie Backun
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Author: CPW
Date: 2005-08-20 15:47
Listen to the Boston Records recording of Montanaro...sweet, controlled. Yes, it is conservative, but not dull.
Wimpy? Not in the least.
I prefer to use the term "impeccable"
This is not a denigration of RM, who is of course very good. I am merely registering a personal preference. And yes, I have the French Portraits CD, and appreciate the skills.
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Author: DavidBlumberg
Date: 2005-08-20 17:32
To each his own- I think his Orchestral playing is whimpy and I do have the recording.
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Author: SueSmith
Date: 2005-08-20 18:04
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To each his own- I think his Orchestral playing is whimpy and I do have the recording.
David - I agree with you. I heard Montanaro sitting principle in early 1995 (Gigliotti had a broken/sprained finger I believe) and I couldn't even hear him. For some reason his tone is not able to cut through the orchestra - even when he's the only one playing?!?
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Author: redwine
Date: 2005-08-20 18:40
Hello,
As was stated earlier, Ricardo has changed equipment a lot, so while we were aware that he was in the design phase for a new mouthpiece with Backun, we did not know he had already made the switch. Ricardo has a beautiful sound and very good equipment. I suspect however that he would sound as good almost any equipment he chooses to use. Of course, he can only speak for himself, but I suspect he works with what makes his experience most rewarding to him.
Each player, regardless of the mouthpiece they select to play, will have their own personal and unique sound. Thus, the mouthpieces that are made to play in tune, can help the sound and make playing a pleasure but will not substantively change the individual characteristics unique to each player.
Mouthpiece making is an art, although one could describe it also as an inexact science! Even with exact measurements, rubber is an organic material with a considerable amount of variability. Thus, even with identical measurements, two mouthpieces may feel quite different to one player.
What is the answer to all of the puzzling? Find the mouthpiece that feels best to you. If you cannot find one that is "just right", work with your mouthpiece maker to adjust it until it does work for you. The bottom line is there are many very good mouthpieces available and many very good mouthpiece makers willing and able to work with the players to help them achieve a pleasurable playing experience.
Ben Redwine, DMA
owner, RJ Music Group
Assistant Professor, The Catholic University of America
Selmer Paris artist
www.rjmusicgroup.com
www.redwinejazz.com
www.reedwizard.com
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Author: DavidBlumberg
Date: 2005-08-20 19:38
I just spoke with Morrie and there are some very cool and wild things coming down the pike for Clarinetists.
:)
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Author: phillyhotshot
Date: 2005-08-20 21:24
I just spoke with Morrie and there are some very cool and wild things coming down the pike for Clarinetists.
When he starts selling talent he'll get very rich.
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Author: DavidBlumberg
Date: 2005-08-20 21:55
All in good fun. If he wasn't from Philly I'd probably not go there, but it could be a student, or student of a student of mine for all I know.....
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Author: DavidBlumberg
Date: 2005-08-20 22:02
btw - as in any product there will always be those who like it, and those who either don't, or won't be willing to give it a try.
Ricardo is putting his name on the new products to come.
He doesn't put his name on anything lightly.
Morrie told me that there's going to be a Ligature, Mouthpiece, and even reeds - the Mouthpiece has a quite unique design to it.
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Author: RodRubber
Date: 2005-08-20 22:24
Blumberg,
"I think his Orchestral playing is whimpy and I do have the recording"
Spoken like a true student of AG.
And im with you on that, never have been a big fan of monty.
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Author: DavidBlumberg
Date: 2005-08-20 22:31
Doesn't really make sense either as we both studied with the same teacher.
Of course though I'd much rather hear him sound whimpy than spread or bombastic.... 
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Author: chito
Date: 2005-08-21 02:30
Mr. Morrie thank you for your information abouth this mpc. When
I was attend last clarinet fest i bought a pair of your barell and
bell and its great . Mr.Morrie i would like to try your mpc if thiers
available where can i contact thank you.
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Author: Mark Charette
Date: 2005-08-21 02:33
> where can i contact thank you.
Clicking on Morrie's name on his post will tell you everything you need to know. Business related questions need to be conducted off-board.
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Author: RosewoodClarinet
Date: 2005-08-21 04:50
I thought Mr.Morales is using BG revelation rigature........
I am very currious what kind of ligature Mr.Backun is making under Mr.Morales' name.
RosewoodClarinet
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Author: DavidBlumberg
Date: 2005-08-21 05:03
It's a ligature for the Custom Mouthpiece.
Gold Version
Silver Version - Sterling Silver (not plated)
I've always preferred Silver myself for the feel as well as the sound.
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Author: RosewoodClarinet
Date: 2005-08-21 05:14
Thanks, DavidBlumberg. I will try them when they are available. I hope it will fit my zinner-blank mouthpiece (Greg Smith) since these blank mouthpieces are slightly smaller than other blanks like Vandoren and Pyne.........
RosewoodClarinet
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Author: chito
Date: 2005-08-21 15:36
I thought Mr.Morales is using BG revelation rigature........
When i saw in his concert he used leather ligature im not sure but
i think its BG .
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Author: L. Omar Henderson
Date: 2005-08-21 17:04
I too would like to try the new mouthpiece, and probably will. I have found however that a personal give-and-take relationship with a mouthpiece maker has given me the best results. I count many of the current genre of mouthpiece makers as friends and with all of their mouthpieces there is still variability even with the same facings. Many of them are fabulous players in their own right and can combine their "art" of making mouthpieces with the practical experience of a seasoned player who can detect subtle differences in mouthpiece performance.
Ben Redwine gave me a personal course at the Midwest Clinic last year in what goes into making a mouthpiece and I was amazed at the process. Given the process of molding and then vulcanization of the rubber itself there are variations in rubber density, hardness, and shape of each mouthpiece blank even from the same mold. Adhering even to precise measurements of the finished mouthpiece may still not give consistency in the playability of the mouthpiece - perhaps it may help. Richard Hawkins had previously given a master class for the Atlanta Clarinet Association (see y'all at ClarinetFest 2006 in Atlanta !!!) in mouthpiece design and function, and I conceded the "art" portion of mouthpiece making after analyzing the number of interactive variables that affect mouthpiece performance.
L. Omar Henderson
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Author: RosewoodClarinet
Date: 2005-08-22 02:57
I know Mr.Morales would sound great on any equipment he choose to play.....same as other great clarinetists in the world......
RosewoodClarinet
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Author: sfalexi
Date: 2005-08-22 03:06
Ben Redwine said . . . Quote:
As was stated earlier, Ricardo has changed equipment a lot, so while we were aware that he was in the design phase for a new mouthpiece with Backun, we did not know he had already made the switch. At the very least, this thread has made me more comfortable with my obsession to try out new equipment and setups. Now I know that my OCD complex with setups is in the same company as those with Ricardo Morales!!! ![[wink]](http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/smileys/smilie3.gif)
US Army Japan Band
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Author: DavidBlumberg
Date: 2005-08-22 03:21
Selection of equipment is typically a matter of comfort (for high level players). We sound like what we sound like pretty much on any equipment, but how hard we have to work to get that end result varies a lot. If I play a Clarinet which is stuffy, etc., I will have to work hard to compensate for that to get my "end tone".
I'm going to sound like I do on Ricardo's equipment, and Ricardo's going to sound like Ricardo on my equipment.
I've played on the same Gigliotti P facing mouthpiece for the past 21 years and am happy
but very intrigued - hype is nothing, only results count.
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Author: Ed
Date: 2005-08-22 11:11
Morrie Backun states:
"This particular one has a series of special grooves across the table that are quite unique"
I don't want to have you give away trade secrets, but what purpose do these grooves serve?
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Author: DavidBlumberg
Date: 2005-08-22 12:53
It gets the food particles out of the way so that the reed can vibrate better.......
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Author: CPW
Date: 2005-08-22 13:01
Old Bonades had grooves.
(They perhaps held his used cigarette butts).
Seriously, another variation on the theme of concave table?
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Author: chito
Date: 2005-08-22 14:45
Morrie Backun states:
"This particular one has a series of special grooves across the table that are quite unique"
Yes im thinking also whats the purpose of special grooves across the table
i didn't see this style quite unique ?
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