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 coffee, cheesecake, sandwich - a friendly competition
Author: ned 
Date:   2005-08-20 05:59

Dave,

Seems like you got me with ''Cheesecake" - I recognised Louis of course, but not the clarinet player - Joe Murianyi possibly? Can't say that Mame would be one of my favourite musicals and that's my excuse.

Anyway, now might be the time to have a little guessing game - anyone can join in of course.

Need some ground rules though [ie] 1/ has to have clarinet in the piece / has to have a vocal so one can quote a line or two as proof 3/ need to quote performer and approximate year 4/ has to have a jazz orientation......otherwise I could ask you about (say) ''Baby Are Yeng" sung by Nancy Jacobs & Her Sisters, recorded in South Africa circa 1960 - but I won't.

No problem with Ugly Child - in my collection it is recorded by S Bechet with Muggsy Spanier on a "This Is Jazz" airshot in 1947.
"You so ugly, you so ugly, you're some ugly child" And....as I understand, George Brunies, the vocalist, altered the lyrics from the original composition entitled " You're Some Pretty Doll''.

So here's my return salvo:

''Oh, Peter''

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 Re: coffee, cheesecake, sandwich - a friendly competition
Author: Markael 
Date:   2005-08-20 10:41

Hey, I'm not in this game because I couldn't win against you guys, but I have a question about cheesecake.

Does that have a line "Mama done stuffin' that cheesecake [cheesecake]" ?

I heard Louis sing that on TV one time and it stuck with me. I've never heard it again since and never talked to anybody who remembered it.

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 Re: coffee, cheesecake, sandwich - a friendly competition
Author: larryb 
Date:   2005-08-20 13:06

Billy Banks, 1932


My entry: "Chew, chew, chew your bubble gum"

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 Re: coffee, cheesecake, sandwich - a friendly competition
Author: davedmg 
Date:   2005-08-20 15:20

John:

I think it is "Oh, Peter! You're So nice!" Frank Teschemacher on clarinet in one of Eddie Condon's recordings. Additional lyrics: "...When you are by my side, then I'm satisfied...." -- Dave



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 Re: coffee, cheesecake, sandwich - a friendly competition
Author: davedmg 
Date:   2005-08-20 19:39

Markael:

My version doesn't contain that line. Closest thing to it is the line something like "My girl loves cheesecake all the time....when I bring some she treats me mighty fine!" -- Dave

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 Re: coffee, cheesecake, sandwich - a friendly competition
Author: donald 
Date:   2005-08-20 19:48

John Kelly- you've heard of Joe Murianyi (sp?) have you? i made a posting here once asking if anyone knew anything about him- he plays clarinet on the Shel Silverstein "Hairy Jazz" album (as part of the Red Onion band) and there are some solos that are just fabulous
basically, this guy is responsible for me wanting to be a clarinet player, but i've never met anyone else who knew who he was.....
any more info would be great
donald

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 Re: coffee, cheesecake, sandwich - a friendly competition
Author: davedmg 
Date:   2005-08-20 19:51

Larry B:

You got me! I know " Choo'n Gum" ("I didn't buy a pickle; I bought some choo'n gum."

But do you know "Pepsin Gum"? -- Dave

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 Re: coffee, cheesecake, sandwich - a friendly competition
Author: Jack Kissinger 
Date:   2005-08-20 20:01

"not on your tintype, said the little bum" but was there a clarinetist?

Best regards,
jnk

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 Re: coffee, cheesecake, sandwich - a friendly competition
Author: ned 
Date:   2005-08-21 00:49

Larry

Correct... you have the Red Allen version obviously with Pee Wee Russell - you forgot to quote a line or two though.

And...you got me on "chew chew your chewing gum"

Dave

You got the words OK, but I'm not familiar with the Teschmaker version. And "Pepsin Gum" sounds like something a kid would eat after school - and ruin his teeth.


Donald

I'll check out my collection and see what I have of Joe Murianyi.

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 Re: coffee, cheesecake, sandwich - a friendly competition
Author: larryb 
Date:   2005-08-21 01:05

"Chew chew chew your bubble gum"

Barney Bigard small group (w/Ellington on piano) from about 1938 (don't have it in front of me). A group called the Quintones did the singing (same date as "Ut dat zay sings the tailor")

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 Re: coffee, cheesecake, sandwich - a friendly competition
Author: ned 
Date:   2005-08-21 01:18

Thanks Larry - I'd like to hear Barney Bigar's version of chew chew.....he is one of my favourites.

I'll think of another tester shortly.

jk

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 Re: coffee, cheesecake, sandwich - a friendly competition
Author: davedmg 
Date:   2005-08-21 01:41

Jack Kissinger:

When my grandmother sang this song to me 60 years ago (or more!) there was no clarinetist. But you may be right about "not on your tintype;" I'm sure I got the abridged version. But you might be wrong, too! What's the first line of the tune? -- Dave

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 Re: coffee, cheesecake, sandwich - a friendly competition
Author: Jack Kissinger 
Date:   2005-08-21 04:08

It's been a lonnnng time and, right now, the first five words won't come to me at all. I would think they identify the speaker in the fourth line and I'm pretty sure they follow the rhythm pattern I used. I'm also not sure about "most politely." For some reason "very kindly" keeps popping into my mind but it doesn't make as much sense in context. If I've got the song you're thinking of, can you fill in the blanks? Anybody else know?

(Dum dum da dum dum) saw a little bum,
Sittin' on the sidewalk chewin' Pepsin gum,
Said he (most politely)
"Won't you give me some?"
"Not on your tintype!" said the little bum.

Best regards,
jnk



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 Re: coffee, cheesecake, sandwich - a friendly competition
Author: davedmg 
Date:   2005-08-21 15:13

Jack Kissinger:

You got it! Here are the verses as I remember them:

A passing policeman
Met a little bum
Standing on the corner, chewing Pepsin gum.

"Oho you little rascal,
Won't you give me some?
If you don't then I'll arrest you
for chewing Pepsin gum!"

-- Dave



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 Re: coffee, cheesecake, sandwich - a friendly competition
Author: mlcxcats 
Date:   2006-08-04 18:19

Hi there,

I hope you guys will forgive me for joining this group as my sole intention is to respond to a posting I found here via a search on www.google.com.

For many years I wondered about the "bum, tintype and pepsin gum" song. Every now and then I would google a few phrases from the song in hopes of finding ANYTHING at all on it. Until today, nothing ever came up. (I guess it has been more than a year...given the dates of your posts).

My mother also sang this to me when I was a very young child (early 1960's). She has since passed away. I never could quite remember the opening line either. Plus, I knew not a thing about the song...who wrote it, when, what genre, etc.

I entertain in nursing homes on voice and guitar (I'm a former music therapist) but have never found a single soul who knew the words. Heck, I've never found anyone who has even heard OF the darn thing.

So, Jack and everyone else....a very big THANK YOU!!! for giving me a little info to go on.

By the way, instead of the words "most politely" my mother used the words

..."Said he 'TO HIM KINDLY'... won't you give me some..."

Rhythmically, it fits.

And Jack, regarding the following:

"For some reason "very kindly" keeps popping into my mind but it doesn't make as much sense in context."

Well, ...maybe now it does make sense...

Thanks again, and no, I don't play the clarinet - but I just had to respond. Hope that's okay...and given that you guys posted this stuff almost a year ago (exactly)...I hope you're reading it now. Let me know?

Michelle

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