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 trill from b to c#
Author: driftwood 
Date:   2005-08-17 02:46

So, this sounds pretty stupid, but does anyone know of a relativly easy way to trill from b to c#(above the staff.) I've looked at the fingering chart on this site and it doesn't really help, and I lost mine a while ago. So, if anyone can tell me alternative fingerings for c# that would be extreamly helpful.



Post Edited (2005-08-17 04:08)

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 Re: trill from b to c#
Author: Gretchen 
Date:   2005-08-17 03:22

driftwood,

play b, and trill (reaching up with your right pointer) to the key that's the second key down/third key up in your set of side keys on the right side of your clarinet (the side keys that play Eb/Bb, chromatic F#, alternate Bb etc.) You'll have to practice this trill a little, because the C#'s a little hesitant to come out unless you voice it correctly...it doesn't come out effortlessly, so make sure your tongue is high in your mouth, and your air stream is fast.

Good luck! :)

Gretchen

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 Re: trill from b to c#
Author: GBK 
Date:   2005-08-17 03:34

B to C# above the staff would be called B5 to C#6.


Actually there are at least 8 different ways to execute this trill:



1. Play the B5 and trill to C#6 by removing the thumb and register key.

2. Play the B5 and trill to C#6 by depressing the lower 2 right side keys.

3. Play the B5 and trill to C#6 by rapidly depressing the G# throat key.

4. Play the B5 and trill to C#6 by depressing the third trill key (2nd from the top) only.

5. Play the B5 and trill to C#6 by using the fingering: TR xox / xxo

6. Play the B5 with this fingering: TR oxo / xxx (F#/C#) and trill to C#6 by using the G# throat key.

7. Play the B5 with this fingering: TR oxo (C#/G#) / ooo and trill to C#6 by using the G# throat key.

and my favorite:

8. Play the C#6 with the regular fingering: TR oxx/ xxo and trill to B5 by using the fingering TR oxx/ xxx (F#/C#)


Each fingering has its strengths and weaknesses.

Check all the different fingering choices for pitch and to see if they apply to the particular passage in question...GBK

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 Re: trill from b to c#
Author: driftwood 
Date:   2005-08-17 04:12

Gretchen and GBK, thank you both. Wow, that's a lot of options. I'll have to try them all out tomorrow, it's midnight and if I tried now I have a feeling my mom would get pretty mad, especially since she doesn't enjoy the upper octaves very much.

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 Re: trill from b to c#
Author: Dan Oberlin 2017
Date:   2005-08-17 13:47

Someone once said something like "the half of knowledge is knowing where
to find knowledge". It would be useful, as well as respectful of scholarly tradition, to credit one's sources when posting replies which contain
material from published works.

Dan Oberlin

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 Re: trill from b to c#
Author: Mark Charette 
Date:   2005-08-17 14:18

Dan Oberlin wrote:

> It would be useful, as well as respectful
> of scholarly tradition, to credit one's sources when posting
> replies which contain
> material from published works.

There are multiple published works of these and other fingerings.

The fingerings themselves are in the public domain.

See http://www.wfg.woodwind.org for a large (and always growing) set.

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 Re: trill from b to c#
Author: GBK 
Date:   2005-08-17 14:24

Dan,

All the fingerings I posted are fairly common, except perhaps #8, which was probably shown to me by a colleague some time in the past.

Tim Reichard's site, The Woodwind Fingering Guide http://www.wfg.woodwind.org/ (which BTW - I have made MANY contributions to over the years) shows alternate fingerings as well as trill fingerings.


Looking at that site, I noticed one possibility for B5 to C#6 which I had omitted:

(let's call this one #9)

9. Play the B5 as TR xox / xxx and trill to C#6 by using TR xox / xxo (thus, just moving the 3rd finger of the right hand)


No creditation is offered on the site for whoever submitted that fingering.

Like many of the high note fingerings (ex. G6, or Ab6) which have numerous fingering choices, the B5 to C#6 trill also has multiple choices (there are probably others which I have forgotten about) with some being clearly better than others.

BTW - If you want to use any of the fingerings I suggested, you don't have to credit me as your source. Just send a check [wink] ...GBK

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 Re: trill from b to c#
Author: diz 
Date:   2005-08-19 03:54

GBK's bottomless pit of knowledge on this topic never ceases to amaze me, but I've got a challenging tremolo that I saw in a clarinet part and that was between the bottom F# and A (one ledger line above the stave) ... I told the composer it was fanciful and frustrating to execute even vaguely musically ... far better that the performer is instructed to remove the mouthpiece + barrel and blow whilst flapping hand gently against the hole.

Without music, the world would be grey, very grey.

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