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 Mouthpiece Refacing
Author: JimV 
Date:   2005-08-13 00:49

Does anyone know of a good mouthpiece refacer near Moline, Rock Island, IL or Davenport IA. I use O'Brien crystals. I pretty much know what numbers I want but as most of you know just putting a certain facing on the same mouthpiece blanks does not mean you will get the same results on all of them due to the baffle and chambers being a hair different. I think you need to stay with the refacer while he is working on one or two. Anyway I would like to find someone close as possible to the above cities. Thanks for your help.

Jim

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 Re: Mouthpiece Refacing
Author: Ed 
Date:   2005-08-13 01:10

You could always get in touch with Walter Grabner
http://www.clarinetxpress.com/ who is in Highland Park. He is not exactly next door, but he does great work. If you are looking to have personal work done, I would not hesitate to take a few hour trip. It would be well worth it.

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 Re: Mouthpiece Refacing
Author: mnorswor 
Date:   2005-08-13 03:34

You can also check out Rick Sayre in Lombard, IL. He's at (630) 916-1525. He was Kaspar of Cicero's student and does wonderful work.

Michael

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 Re: Mouthpiece Refacing
Author: Arnoldstang 
Date:   2005-08-13 18:24

Not many guys like to work on crystal.....it shatters....even as they work on it. I had John Thomas....Gainesville. Fl work on a O'brien also there is someone in San Diego who refaces crystal mouthpieces. I just looked it up......Rast is the name....look it up on the net. John

Freelance woodwind performer

Post Edited (2005-08-13 18:26)

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 Re: Mouthpiece Refacing
Author: GBK 
Date:   2005-08-13 18:26

Dave Spiegelthal (from this bulletin board) also refaces crystal mouthpieces ...GBK

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 Re: Mouthpiece Refacing
Author: saxlite 
Date:   2005-08-13 21:01

Ditto on Walter Grabner in Highland Park, IL (Just north of Chicago). I can also recommend Fred Rast. He is in San Jose, CA.
Fred Rast
www.rastmusic.com
mpcmaker@yahoo.com
831-338-3159



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 Re: Mouthpiece Refacing
Author: sfalexi 
Date:   2005-08-13 21:31

http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/read.html?f=1&i=106460&t=106395

Has some ideas on who to contact too.

US Army Japan Band

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 Re: Mouthpiece Refacing
Author: JimV 
Date:   2005-08-14 02:23

Thanks everyone for your input. I didn't think there was anyone very close to where I live but thought someone here might know different as this board has far reaching and knowledgeble posters.

I was shocked some time back to find out about Jerry Hall's death. Jerry had worked on a couple of glass pieces for me and we would talk every couple months or so. Very nice guy I met in N.O. at Clarinet Fest 2001.

I'm wondering if Fred Rast is the guy Bob Draga was telling me about. Looks like my closest contact would be someone in Chicago like Walter Grabner.

Jim

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 Re: Mouthpiece Refacing
Author: BobD 
Date:   2005-08-14 16:41

I don't have an answer but the question does make me wonder. Glass inherently, in my experience, contains lots of unbalanced internal stresses. I'm wondering if the glass mp makers ever suggest a tempering operation for their mouthpieces. In the tool steel business we used to typically suggest users remove parts from service periodically and have them tempered....at a lower tempering temperature than the last one used by the heat treater. The purpose was to relive service stresses and prolong die life. Don't confuse my question with the glass operation used with auto windshields or plate glass.

Bob Draznik

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 Re: Mouthpiece Refacing
Author: JimV 
Date:   2005-08-15 02:30

Bob

I had the opportunity to go through O'Brien's manufacturing process some time back. Right after they take the glass forging from the mold it is put in a tray. These trays are pushed into a long oven open on both ends and 'cooked' so to speak for the tempering operation which takes most of the brittleness out of the mouthpiece. I think they hold up pretty good during refacing if one knows what they are doing, such as Dave Spiegelthal. But they will not take a direct bump from say a music stand or if your clarinet is knocked over and slams on the floor.

Just curious, Dave Spiegelthal, of all the glass pieces you have refaced, how many broke or cracked during the operation?

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 Re: Mouthpiece Refacing
Author: David Spiegelthal 2017
Date:   2005-08-15 16:16

JimV,
Of the couple of dozen crystal mouthpieces I've refaced, only one developed any sort of damage during the process --- a chip came off the back (tenon) edge of the table on one clarinet mouthpiece (I don't remember the brand). Nothing serious. I haven't had any break or crack (knock on grenadilla!).

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