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 Concertino ending
Author: clarinetwife 
Date:   2005-07-12 20:05

This is one of those picky note questions :) but here goes.

13 and 12 measures before the end of the Weber concertino there is the 16th note pattern CAFGAB. The score from the 16 Grands solos de concert has a g natural and a B natural on this passage, and I don't remember being taught any different. However, on my recording there is a G#, presumably to match the F# in the accompaniment. Given that there is a written B natural in the clarinet against concert Bbs in the strings later in that measure, the written G in the clarinet against the F# in the strings makes sense. The G# sounds interesting as well. Any thoughts about this, either harmonically or historically?

I am going to be performing this with orchestra next season, so I am looking at it more closely than I have in years.

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 Re: Concertino ending
Author: larryb 
Date:   2005-07-12 20:11

I'd recommend you order a copy of the recent Henle Urtext edition of the Concertino - the piece has become so encrusted with tradition (Baermann, Bonade, Kell, et. al.) that it might make sense to consult the "source" (or as close to the source as possible).

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 Re: Concertino ending
Author: Tony Pay 2017
Date:   2005-07-12 21:05

The G# is of a later provenance, and doesn't appear in any of autograph, first edition or Baermann.

By the way, Larry's advice to get the Henle edition (and that edition of all the Weber works, not just the Concertino) is excellent. At last we don't have to burble on about the deficiencies of all the other editions that students turn up with. It just gives all the information, and then leaves the decision up to you.

And how amazingly cheap for what you get, including -- crucially -- an 'autograph' clarinet part, as well as a 'Baermann' one:-)

Tony

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 Re: Concertino ending
Author: clarinetwife 
Date:   2005-07-12 22:05

Tony Pay wrote:

> The G# is of a later provenance, and doesn't appear in any of
> autograph, first edition or Baermann.

That's what I thought, thanks


Tony Pay also wrote> By the way, Larry's advice to get the Henle edition (and that
> edition of all the Weber works, not just the Concertino) is
> excellent. At last we don't have to burble on about the
> deficiencies of all the other editions that students turn up
> with. It just gives all the information, and then leaves the
> decision up to you.

Yes, in the areas of phrasing and articulation in particular it would be nice to have something without all the extra stuff. I have a few Henle editions for piano and like them; I just haven't delved into the clarinet catalogue yet.

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