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Author: Tony Pay ★2017
Date: 2005-06-19 22:07
Sometimes I want to reply to a post that's in the middle of a thread. If I do, 'reply to this post' I get a blank window. If I then click on 'quote' I get, not the post I want to reply to, quoted, but the last post in the thread, quoted.
Why?
Tony
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Author: Tony Pay ★2017
Date: 2005-06-19 23:54
> Use "Threaded view" instead of "Flat View"
...but...
...it would be much more useful implemented in "Flat View".
(You see, if you scroll through the posts on a given subject, you get a sense of the rhythms involved. This post is important, that one stupid, that one just a decoration; This is one crazy, that one rational, then a boring a boring..a neW Look!
(It's not unlike a sort of music itself!)
:-)
Anyhow, if you find you want to post something about the thread, you usually know which post you want to reply to directly, and which post you want to quote to begin with when you make your response.
But if, when you want to do that, you have then to go back to "Threaded View", you necessarily lose track of where you were...don't you think?
And configured "Threaded View" on a web-based system to begin with, it takes much too long to work through a thread. It needs to be more uptempo for the reader be able to appreciate the phrasing:-)
(BTW I do understand that it might be impossible to implement, given the constraints of your framework.)
Tony
Post Edited (2005-06-20 00:12)
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Author: Tony Pay ★2017
Date: 2005-06-20 00:31
I wrote:
> And configured "Threaded View" on a web-based system to begin
> with, it takes much too long to work through a thread. It needs
> to be more uptempo for the reader be able to appreciate the
> phrasing:-)
OK, having looked again, I withdraw this.
Perhaps I should slow down...
Tony
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Author: Mark Charette
Date: 2005-06-20 02:00
As you just noted, sometimes the threaded view can even give better context.
It depends on your point of view 
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Author: Tony Pay ★2017
Date: 2005-06-20 02:13
Mark Charette wrote:
> As you just noted, sometimes the threaded view can even give
> better context.
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> It depends on your point of view
Mm, but you replied to the wrong bit of my post:-)
I wanted you to reply to:
> ...it would be much more useful implemented in "Flat View".
...and:
> (BTW I do understand that it might be impossible to implement, given the
> constraints of your framework.)
...both of which remain true.
Tony
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Author: Mark Charette
Date: 2005-06-20 02:26
Tony Pay wrote:
> I wanted you to reply to:
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> > ...it would be much more useful implemented in "Flat View".
I hate "Flat view", which is why I never noted it.
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> > (BTW I do understand that it might be impossible to
> implement, given the
> > constraints of your framework.)
Not impossible (after all, it's just a set of programs), but less than easy ...
I've been slowly re-coding the entire assemblage of files that comprises this hodge-podge of pages so I'll be able to make changes without breaking the code. As it is, this BBoard code - one of the larger chunks - has diverged so much from the released code that the effort to merge it back into the mainstream code at this point is considerably more difficult than re-writing it ...
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Author: Don Berger
Date: 2005-06-20 13:24
Hi Bob A, I confess to lack of understanding of the above also, but, Tony, I merely "call out" to whom I direct my comments [as this post begins] and, with caution/decorum, say what I wish to add/correct. Just AM thots, Don
Thanx, Mark, Don
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Author: Markael
Date: 2005-06-20 14:36
If memory serves me correctly, there have been approximately 5,000 posts to the Clarinet Bulletin Board since I came on board about a month and a half ago. Is that an incredible volume of material, or what? It is quite a time consuming pursuit just to read what other people are saying, much less to take time to make one’s own posts and to interact with and reply to others.
Most of us can pick and choose the topics that interest us. Imagine what it must be like for Mark and Glenn who monitor things to see if the board is being used correctly.
I imagine that Tony Pay’s frustration is coming from wanting to respond to a thread and ending up spending much more time that he intended, just trying to keep straight who said what.
I can relate to that. There have been times when I have been so wrapped up in the bulletin board that I have forgotten to actually practice, or to do some other important activity. On the other hand, the board has also motivated me to practice, and it has given me quick access to good information that I otherwise would never have been able to find.
My unscientific opinion is that the quality of the writing found on this bulletin board is significantly above average for this type of internet forum. Therefore, it is worth our time. Good writing is worthwhile for both reader and writer.
Word processing and the internet have done both bad and good things for writing.
The bad news: More people are writing more, and much of it is sloppy and lazy and poorly edited. It is very easy to press “send” or “post” and let go of an ill conceived or poorly worded message. And even careful writers become overwhelmed and bogged down with the volume of material and cut corners in order to save time. Many times I have sent an e-mail too quickly, in order to save time, only to end up spending more time in the long run explaining what I really meant.
The good news: Editing and re-writing and checking spelling have never been easier. Electronic messages can be sent instantly, and the recipient can respond while the topic is still fresh. In a forum such as this one you can sit at your computer in Dogpatch and converse with people in Lower Slobovia.
The bottom line: Whether you use threaded view or flat view or some other system yet to be devised, there really aren’t but so many short-cuts to thoughtful, intelligent writing. Tony, your posts on tuning and other matters have been both thoughtful and intelligent. Keep ‘em comin’.
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Author: BobD
Date: 2005-06-20 16:13
My solution to Tony's situation is to reply directly to the person.
Bob Draznik
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Author: GBK
Date: 2005-06-20 16:23
Markael wrote:
> The bottom line: Whether you use threaded view
> flat view or some other system yet to be devised,
> there really aren’t but so many short-cuts to thoughtful,
> intelligent writing
[ As Mark and I have said numerous times - Whatever you write is going to be here (and in the archives) for a LONG time. Will you be proud of what you wrote 5 years from now? - GBK ]
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Author: Tony Pay ★2017
Date: 2005-06-20 21:34
Bob wrote:
<<My solution to Tony's problem is to reply directly to the person.>>
The thing is, I'm not usually trying to answer a particular someone's question. I'm usually trying to redirect the enquiry.
Much -- not all -- of what is written here comes from a misunderstanding of what playing the clarinet is all about.
(That's only because the people writing don't play the clarinet in performance on a regular basis.)
Tony
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Author: BobD
Date: 2005-06-20 22:14
"I'm usually trying to redirect the enquiry."
Not sure I understand what that means, but wouldn't that be the opportunity for a new post?
Bob Draznik
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Author: Tony Pay ★2017
Date: 2005-06-20 22:28
BobD wrote:
>>"I'm usually trying to redirect the enquiry.">>
>Not sure I understand what that means, but wouldn't that be the opportunity for a new post?>
I meant, redirect the current enquiry -- ie, within the thread.
Of course, a new thread can sometimes be a possibility.
Tony
Post Edited (2005-06-20 22:29)
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Author: BobD
Date: 2005-06-21 13:59
I have to admit that, despite my age, I'm awed to be able to exchange comments with an artist whose Cd I've admired for years.
Bob Draznik
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