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Author: DavidBlumberg
Date: 2005-05-17 13:33
Can you give me sources of band recordings (complete suite only!!) of the Planets? Not brass band, but wind ensemble. There's an online site which has a scammer there who posted the complete set and credits it to a band which is completely unknown in the real world. I'm pretty sure that it's a Military Band (but not which one) that this character ripped off and posted their work.
I won't post the link as I don't want to give them any more light.
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Author: Merlin
Date: 2005-05-17 14:17
The Toronto Youth Wind Orchestra recorded the Planets in it's entirety.
Colin Clarke, Artistic Director of the group did the transcription.
Their page - www.tywo.ca has details on the 3 recordings they've put out.
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Author: OpusII
Date: 2005-05-17 14:21
Just curious, but what was the name of the band? Maybe there people here who know the band and who can give you a certain answer...
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Author: Don Berger
Date: 2005-05-17 15:36
Since Holst has certainly written well for concert band, was the Planets originally composed for orchestra and transcribed for band , or vice-versa ? Don
Thanx, Mark, Don
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Author: Joel K.
Date: 2005-05-17 17:40
Five of the seven movements are available online for free at:
http://www2.acc.af.mil/music/frontier
It's the US Air Force Heritage of America Band stationed at Langley Air Force Base.
I'm having trouble getting the above link to work but it is the link on the Langley Band's website.
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Author: David Peacham
Date: 2005-05-17 17:52
Don - I am practically certain that it was written for orchestra. Certainly the orchestral version is by Holst, not an arrangement by anyone else.
People may be interested to know of an eighth movement, Pluto, recently added by Colin Matthews. See http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/encyclopedia/T/Th/The_Planets.htm and many other links.
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If there are so many people on this board unwilling or unable to have a civil and balanced discussion about important issues, then I shan't bother to post here any more.
To the great relief of many of you, no doubt.
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Author: GBK
Date: 2005-05-17 18:20
The Planets was originally written for 2 pianos, due to Holst's arthritis in his writing hand and wanting to save his strength for composing.
It was later orchestratated from the piano scores, under Holst's supervision and guidance, by 2 fellow faculty members from St. Paul's School in London.
BTW - As most know, Holst despised the notoriety The Planets gave him. He vehemently shunned autographs and requests for similar compositions.
He even lost interest in his hobby of astrology...GBK
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Author: Hank Lehrer
Date: 2005-05-17 18:36
Hi,
Ken Kolb, a frequent BBposter, was a member of the Heritage Band when the Holst cuts were recorded. Too bad the recording of he and Amy Ashmore doing Il Congevno is not available. What a gas!
HRL
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Author: Don Berger
Date: 2005-05-17 18:49
Many TKS, David P and GBK, a very interesting history, will look up Pluto! I had heard several movements [planets] quite often, but when our local Symphony played the 7, and showing with each, on our big screen, the views available from exploring satellites [augmented??], it was visually AND audibly quite an experience. Regretfully, G H died in 1934, long before big- telescopic views of the "cosmos" were available for compositional-imagining of "what's out there". At a loss for words, y'all know what I mean. Don
Thanx, Mark, Don
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Author: David Peacham
Date: 2005-05-17 19:04
GBK - thanks for the correction.
http://www.hartfordsymphony.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=105&Itemid=300
gives a slightly different take on the story, implying the creative work of the orchestration was essentially Holst's, even though he didn't wield the pen.
Oddly enough, I spent my childhood within a mile of St Paul's Girls' School. Holst wrote at least two pieces named after the immediate area. (You shouldn't say "St Paul's School", that's the boys' school, a mile away on the other side of the Thames. Holst taught at the girls' school. Excuse hideous pedantry.)
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If there are so many people on this board unwilling or unable to have a civil and balanced discussion about important issues, then I shan't bother to post here any more.
To the great relief of many of you, no doubt.
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Author: DavidBlumberg
Date: 2005-05-17 20:10
I guarantee you that the recording isn't any student group anywhere. It's most likely the Langley band - I'll hear them and compare.
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Author: DavidBlumberg
Date: 2005-05-17 20:18
Nope, it's not USAF Heritage of America Band as I just compared a couple of excerpts - couldn't be the same.
Close, but not the same. Similar quality of group though (very high level).
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Author: ken
Date: 2005-05-18 03:48
The downloads page was back up again when I tried it. Merlin Patterson's outstanding "transcription" of Mvts. I (Mars) II (Venus) III (Mercury) IV (Jupiter) and VI (Uranus) became available at just the right time when this project was conceived and programmed (recorded: 11-14 May 1998, Norfolk State University.) The Commander/Conductor and senior staff arranger interposed select and subtle voicing and coloring changes to more closely emulate the orchestra score. The rest of the CD contains exciting space era theme pieces and premiere band works: Aldo Forte's, "The Thunderbirds", Philip Wilby's, "Dawn Flight" and the "first" military band recording of Frank Ticheli's "Blue Shades".
On a personal note as former/retired unit member, and for those who follow or familiar with the ACC Band's 60-year history, this snapshot in time brilliantly captures the band at their pinnacle both individually and collectively; an exceptional musical effort and industry contribution. The final mix down averaged only 1-1/2 edits per minute of real time tape --- what was pressed was an accurate and honest representation not a slice-and-dice processed tissue of bogus lies. v/r Ken
http://www2.acc.af.mil/music/frontier
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Author: GoatTnder
Date: 2005-11-17 03:51
Does anyone know where Patterson's transcription is available, should one want to perform it? Thanks.
Andres Cabrera
South Bay Wind Ensemble
www.SouthBayWinds.com
sbwe@sbmusic.org
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Author: allencole
Date: 2005-11-18 17:51
Don, I missed whatever you were responding to about Pluto, but it gave me the idea for a great scam. I'd like to 'discover' a missing Pluto movement and see just how many people would think it's even possible!
Allen Cole
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Author: Neil
Date: 2005-11-18 21:40
If they fall for that try discovering the Xena movement.
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Author: smross
Date: 2005-11-19 06:58
I think (a while back) I had heard of a wind band somewhere in Japan doing a transcription of the Planets suite. All I really remembering finding clips of was Jupiter, however.
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Author: Neil
Date: 2005-11-19 22:38
I got to looking on WinMX and noticed that someone has the Earth movement listed.
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