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Author: Francesca
Date: 2005-05-16 04:35
Hello all!
As my senior recital approaches, I find myself needing to complete an honors thesis. What I'd like to do is compare the manuscript to the edited version of a few of the pieces I'll be performing. However, I'm struggling to locate where in the world (literally) the original manuscripts (or better yet the facsimiles) might be. Any suggestions on where/how in general to search would be greatly appreciated. If anybody knows where any of the specific pieces are, even better!
Here's the program:
Darius Milhaud- "Duo Concertant"
Carl Maria von Weber "Concertino"
Igor Stravinksy "Three Pieces for Clarinet"
Maurice Ravel "Introduction and Allegro for Harp, string quartet, flute and clarinet"
Othmar Schoeck "Sonata for Bass Clarinet"
Thanks so much!
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Author: larryb
Date: 2005-05-16 16:14
not sure where you are and if this information is useful, but you could try the New York Public Library Music Division. They have collections of original and facsimile manuscripts.
[http://www.nypl.org]
Post Edited (2005-05-16 16:15)
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Author: Jack Kissinger
Date: 2005-05-16 16:29
If you can find a way to contact Pamela Weston, she might be able to provide a copy of the manuscript of Weber's "Concertino" or tell you where it is located. It appears that she used it in her edition of the work. The piano part to her edition includes two versions of the clarinet part -- her's and "Weber's Original." Her introductory notes to the edition include some interesting comments about how Weber worked and various changes that have worked their way into published editions of the piece over time. FWIW, I suspect that the Weber has probably been "corrupted" more over time than any of the other works you are doing. I don't know that for a fact, though.
Best regards,
jnk
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Author: GBK
Date: 2005-05-16 17:49
The completed 1919 manuscript to Stravinsky's "Three Pieces for Clarinet Solo" was given by Stravinsky to Werner Reinhart and is now in the Stiftung Rychenberg, in Winterthur.
In 1954, Robert Craft (with the help of Vera Stravinsky) compiled a listing of all the early sketches and manuscripts of works in Stravinsky's possession. This listing was strictly for Stravinsky's personal use, and was not a catalogue in the sense of Köchel, etc...
The complete 1918 sketches for "Three Pieces for Clarinet Solo" was contained on that list...GBK
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Author: GBK
Date: 2005-05-16 18:05
Photostats of first editions of some of Weber's works from the Jaehns Collection can be found in the Library of Congress in Washington, the New York Public Library and the Public Library in Berlin.
The original manuscripts are much more difficult to access, even though the manuscript of the Grand Duo whose whereabouts was originally thought of as "unknown" did turn up in the Library of Congress in Washington.
The manuscript to the Concertino originally in the possession of Freiherr von Weber, stayed in the family, and is today owned by Weber's great-granddaughter, Mathilde von Weber, in Dresden...GBK
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Author: Don Berger
Date: 2005-05-16 19:16
Al Rice in "Clarinet in Classical Period" discusses quite a few compositions of that time period, and likely has something about the location of some originals. Just a thot. A fine book, libraries should have it. Don
Thanx, Mark, Don
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Author: Ken Shaw ★2017
Date: 2005-05-16 20:23
Eric Simon published an edition of various Weber works in which he said he worked from the originals, takin gout all editors' additions (including, I think, those of Baermann). I don't know whether he's still alive, but he could be a source.
Ken Shaw
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Author: diz
Date: 2005-05-16 22:25
when you say "senior recital" - what exactly do you mean, is that final year university or high school, and if it's high school?
Without music, the world would be grey, very grey.
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Author: Francesca
Date: 2005-05-17 16:44
It's my final year of college. I'm completing a thesis on top of giving a recital because I'm in the university honors program.
So GBK, my guess is that I'm out of luck on the Stravinsky. Am I reading your post correctly?
Thanks so much guys! Keep the info coming.
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Author: GBK
Date: 2005-05-17 19:27
Francesca wrote:
> So GBK, my guess is that I'm out of luck on the Stravinsky. Am
> I reading your post correctly?
Unless you want to fly to Zürich. ![[wink]](http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/smileys/smilie3.gif) ...GBK
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Author: diz
Date: 2005-05-18 00:49
Flying to Zürich might be one way of solving this problem, but if you're really ernest about seeing the manuscript for research purposes you might find contacting the head of library serivices a slightly less expensive option. They might very well provide a scanned facsimile in PDF format for you. It's happened to me in the past, you might have to pay for the serivce, too.
Without music, the world would be grey, very grey.
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