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Author: Ken Shaw ★2017
Date: 2005-05-02 20:27
Outdoor concerts will soon begin, and music will be blowing off stands. The wire retainers on Hamilton and other stands don't work well, and both they and magnets need to be removed to turn the page.
Here's an ingenious idea that is cheap, works and lets you turn pages:
Go to a fishing tackle store and get two largish lead "sinker" weights with swivel eyelets for attaching fish line. Also get a spool of monofilament line and instructions on how to make a knot that won't slip.
Cut a piece of the line the width of the stand plus about two feet and tie the weights on at each end.
Attach a spring-clip wooden clothespin on each side of the music stand about 2/3 of the way up the page and angled up. Put the music on the stand and drape the fishing line over the front of the music and between the legs of the clothespins, with the weights hanging down.
The clear, monofilament line holds the music in place, doesn't block the view and the pages can be quickly turned.
When pages are turned, the weights just ride up as the fishing line is pulled away from the music.
Ken Shaw
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Author: GBK
Date: 2005-05-02 21:03
Pretty clever, Ken.
After fighting with music clips for 30 years I finally just went to a local hardware store and had them cut a clear piece of lucite/plexiglass about 20" x 12" x 1/8" (3 mm)
Place it over the music on your stand. No fuss - no muss. To turn pages, tilt the lucite/plexiglass forward from the top, turn the page and place it back in position...GBK
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Author: Terry Stibal
Date: 2005-05-02 21:34
GBK, that might work under some circumstances, but with the fast page turns required in most musical theater, and with multi-page big band charts it would be a big problem.
Outside, I use "large" clips that have a clothespin on the end and a "long leg" attached to one of the two parts of the clip. Indoors, sometimes the same thing (when there's a badly adjusted ventilation system or an updraft coming out of the pit beneath the elevator platform - one dance venue we play is notorious for this problem).
Regardless of location or solution to the problem, it's a nuisance...
leader of Houston's Sounds Of The South Dance Orchestra
info@sotsdo.com
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Author: DavidBlumberg
Date: 2005-05-02 21:46
Back in College, I was performing the Ibert Quartet (the fast movement) and the oboists page kept turning shut. It was being blown by the A/C and the page just wouldn't keep still. She would play a rip, then turn the page, another rip, turn the page - it got really comical.
I maybe would have started laughing, but the part was too intense to afford that.
There were no closepins in sight, nor plexiglass........ 
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Author: GBK
Date: 2005-05-02 21:49
Terry Stibal wrote:
> GBK, that might work under some circumstances, but with the
> fast page turns required in most musical theater, and with
> multi-page big band charts it would be a big problem.
The majority of my outdoor playing is with an orchestra - thankfully not too many rapid page turns.
For our big band, very fast page turns (in multi page big band charts) are sometimes problematic, but not totally unmanageable ...GBK
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Author: Don Berger
Date: 2005-05-02 22:34
OKLAHOMA ! "Where the wind comes sweeping down the plain" [from the Rockies !!]. Yup, been thar, done 'at. Keep many clothes pins in cases, usually need 4 +. Keep one foot on a stand leg, dont like that handy plexiglass , it increases windage for blowing down whole stands ! Many poorly-located page turns require copies unless on a long tacet. Ah Summertime, easy living, difficult out-of-doors comm band playing !! Don
Thanx, Mark, Don
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Author: Shorthand
Date: 2005-05-02 22:36
This is an interesting device Ken, but I just can't picture it. Do you think you could snap a digital photo of it deployed?
How much wind can it take?
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Author: hartt
Date: 2005-05-03 04:48
Yepper, that time of year coming up.
Last 'season' I found these clips manufactured by Manhasset (the music stand co). They are pkg'd one clip per pkg.
Manhasset's model # is 1200. They are clear polymer (12" length) with a nickel plated steel spring inserted into the clip to secure it to the stand.
The packaging reads: fits all music stands.
Unfortunately, the retail price is marked $9.95.
When I found them, the store was closing them out so I bought all they had at $2 each......and now, no outdoor concert ![[frown]](http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/smileys/smilie2.gif) oh well
toot toot
regards
dennis
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Author: Ken Shaw ★2017
Date: 2005-05-03 14:22
Shorthand -
I don't have one at the moment, so pictures aren't possible.
You put clothespins on the sides of the stand, angling up and out, like ears. You then run the line between the legs of one clothespin, pull it across the stand (in front of the music) and put it between the legs of the other clothespin. The weights hang down just outside the edges of the stand.
Ken Shaw
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Author: Don Berger
Date: 2005-05-03 14:31
TKS, Ken, will try one, perhaps a second one as well for greater security. Our "Summer Wind"'s are quite strong, we stay inside when tornados [spring] threaten, they have 60+ mph gust "fronts" as well. Don
Thanx, Mark, Don
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