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 Flat high C
Author: leonardA 
Date:   2005-04-25 16:24

Sometimes my C above the staff is flat despite how much "lipping up" I do. Is there a key that can be pressed to bring it into pitch?

Leonard

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 Re: Flat high C
Author: John Stackpole 
Date:   2005-04-25 16:36

Me, too.

But, to my surprise (and relief), when I put a litte piece of sponge (packing material) and then more recently a tooth guard (made by my dentist) over my lower front teeth (one is sharp because out of place) , the note came out right on the (tuner) button. (I could hear it as "right" too, in an arpeggio ending on that C note.)

I suppose I was not biting down quite hard enough on my unprotected tooth, although I didn't consciously bite harder with the guard in place. Who cares. It worked!

As for other fingerings - I'll let the experts have their say.

JDS

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 Re: Flat high C
Author: Don Berger 
Date:   2005-04-25 17:04

Hi Leo A - How old a cl are you playing, what make? Many horns made before 1955 were cylindrical in bore, and [IMHExperience] often played flat above top-of-staff G. After Buffet's success in improving the pitches of the 12ths via modified-enlarged upper U J bores and other [maker's] methods, most high-note flatting was cured. So, that feature besides embouchure etc improvements may be worthy pf consideration. Don

Thanx, Mark, Don

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 Re: Flat high C
Author: Alphie 
Date:   2005-04-25 17:05

Are the throat tones flat too? Try a shorter barrel. If not, try a shorter reveresed conical barrel like Moennig or Chadash. Usually they help equalizing the mismatch in the upper region of the instrument.

Alphie

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 Re: Flat high C
Author: pewd 
Date:   2005-04-25 17:15

clean the register vent with a pipe cleaner. remove the register key, run a pipe cleaner in there , then put the key back on.

are the pads on the top ok?
gunk in any of the tone holes on the top joint?


is it flat when someone else plays the horn?

- Paul Dods
Dallas, Texas

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 Re: Flat high C
Author: elmo lewis 
Date:   2005-04-26 01:15

On some clarinets you can put down the first 3 fingers of the right hand or the low E key with the right hand little finger.

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 Re: Flat high C
Author: sfalexi 
Date:   2005-04-26 01:19

Try hitting one of the sliver keys (also called "banana" keys). Such as the one for the clarion F# or the one for the clarion Bb.

Alexi

US Army Japan Band

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 Re: Flat high C
Author: Jenab 
Date:   2005-04-26 21:49

Sounds like a mind over matter problem. Might try some mouth adjustments. I play my Eb clarinet more than my Bb one, and the pitch in the Eb clarion register seems to be sensitive to how I hold my teeth-tongue-cheeks. I can usually sharpen up a flat clarion E at least up to Bb by little mouth adjustments. High C is hard though. And I can't reliably produce an altissimo scale on my Eb clarinet.

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 Re: Flat high C
Author: alto_and_bass_clarinetist 
Date:   2005-04-26 22:21

I have this problem with many high notes as well, so, on soprano, I allow more air to leave the instrument by opening some unused holes, such as, sfalexi has stated, for example, the LH Sliver Eb/Bb key, the RH B nat/F# sliver, and the RH (sometimes even LH) G#/Eb pinky key. I dunno if it's just me, but opening up some of those holes fixes my personal intonation problems.

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 Re: Flat high C
Author: Rick Williams 
Date:   2005-04-27 03:53

Just curious. What is your exact setup.

Best
Rick

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