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Author: wjk
Date: 2005-04-21 14:48
With careful humidification, I've been able to get all the rings on my R-13 tight again. However, "that large ring at the bottom" of the bell is a little loose and can be turned---a tech told me that it is ok because that ring "is largely decorative." Is this correct? Any suggestions/comments?
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Author: pewd
Date: 2005-04-21 15:10
listen to your tech.
its not load bearing. decorative, also protects the bell when you bang the horn up against a music stand, or a double reed player's head
paul
- Paul Dods
Dallas, Texas
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Author: David Spiegelthal ★2017
Date: 2005-04-21 16:01
If the looseness bothers you, try cutting some thin paper into very narrow strips and wedge these makeshift shims into the gap between ring and wood -- maybe add a very small dab of glue onto the paper to keep it from sliding back out.
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Author: bill28099
Date: 2005-04-21 18:52
"is largely decorative." I had a Leblanc bell with a loose lower ring split in half on me once upon a time. I would make a little humidor out of a pill bottle and leave it in the bell when you're not playing. If you can't keep the ring tight then have it worked on.
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Author: David Spiegelthal ★2017
Date: 2005-04-22 14:55
But then again many clarinets (e.g. the higher-line Boosey & Hawkes models) had bells without large-end metal rings, and I've personally never seen one of those with a crack down there. The open end of the bell is mechanically unstressed (except for any internal stresses that might have remained from machining, which I would expect to be mimimal at worst), so there is little reason for a bell to crack at the open end unless it is banged against a hard object.
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Author: sfalexi
Date: 2005-04-22 15:01
Just replace it with a backun bell. (all SORTS of inside jokes from past threads in this statement!!!!)
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Author: VermontJM
Date: 2005-04-22 22:20
Your tech guy/girl can fix that.
My understanding is that the ring prevents the bell wood from expanding, but I've never seen a bell crack at the bottom (unless it was dropped.)
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Author: Gordon (NZ)
Date: 2005-04-23 00:34
Yamaha once claimed for a new model that the bell ring was installed under much higher pressure than usual, compressing the timber, and improving the tone. I guess that claim has faded into the oblivion where so many other probably-imagined notions belong.
For loose rings I have sometimes donned a surgical glove, and used my finger to force epoxy between the ring and the timber. I can't see that there is any difference between the effect of doing this, and the effect of using a press to slightly compress the ring.
Indeed, epoxy may very well have a little more 'give' than the metal on its own, to accommodate slight dimensional changes with that occur with humidity changes.
Post Edited (2005-04-23 00:39)
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