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Author: bflatclarinetist
Date: 2005-04-03 00:28
I tested out the Yamaha 450 and the Buffet E-11. And I wasn't too pleased with the e-11. Some of the notes didn't sound as convincing, and the key work is very "stiff" (keys delay in timing). But when I tried the Yamaha the response was a couple times better and because of the blue-spring keywork it makes it easier to play in allegro =).
What do you think of the e-11 vs 450?
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Author: CJB
Date: 2005-04-04 12:50
I can't comment on the E-11 as its been about 15 years since I seriously tried them. Then I selected one of the Yamaha 34 instruments I tried at the same time.
I have tried the 450 that a friend in a community band owns and was impressed. For the price it is a solid instrument with good intonation (sharp but all Yamahas in the UK tend to be pitched at 442). Nice tone and keywork (I am biased there though as I still play Yamahas the keywork was familiar). I couldn't get the variety of tone colour or projection I wanted out of it, but that could be lack of familiarity and being used to my SE.
Bottom line - if it works for you, go for it, who cares what instrument it is. The sound you make with it is far more important.
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Author: starlight
Date: 2005-04-04 14:39
i acutally own a yamaha 450, and i am very happy with it. it's the clarinet i use for auditions/concerts and everything else. i personally think it plays wonderfully. I tried an E -13, and sadly i would have to see it's response is better than the yamaha, but for the price gap, it's really well worth it. i plan to upgrade to r 13 though, soon.
Post Edited (2005-04-04 14:40)
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Author: David Spiegelthal ★2017
Date: 2005-04-04 15:22
I used to ride an '86 Yamaha 600. I think a 450 would be too underpowered for highway riding. Can't speak for the Buffet, never ridden one -- do they make motorcycles too?
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Author: Clarinetgirl06
Date: 2005-04-05 18:52
I currently own a Yamaha Allegro (which is the 450 AL) and a Yamaha 52. I would have to say that I like the 52 much better, eventhough the AL has blue steel springs and a few other upgrades. I would say though, that I would recommend from my own experience, to go ahead and buy a more professional grade clarinet. Try the Yamaha 650 and Buffet R13, which are upgrades of the two that you have listed. I am currently searching for a professional line clarinet because I have played on an intermediate for the last 4 1/2 years. IMHO, It would have been more beneficial I think to just go ahead and get the professional line clarinet. If you are going for the intermediate, try the Yamaha Allegro 550 (which has an adjustable thumb rest and maybe a few more extras), the 450, and the E13. Also look at the Leblanc Rapshodie, and the Selmer line too. Try them all out first and pick which feels the best to you.
Hope I could help!
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Author: Steve Epstein
Date: 2005-04-06 04:28
It is truly amazing. Yamaha uses designations for their instruments that are similar to those for motorcycles. I can't believe that this is coincidence, has to be marketing.
Nevetheless, searching their website has so far failed to yield the black-laquered XS-11 tenor sax.![[grin]](http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/smileys/smilie5.gif)
Steve Epstein
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Author: donald
Date: 2005-04-06 05:03
i used to ride a Yamaha 250- with the gearing adjusted it was ok on the open road (100 km/hr speed limit), but then i got run over by a bus (plus, you can't really put a surfboard on the roof of a motorcycle)
donald
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Author: jez
Date: 2005-04-06 12:21
starlight,
I'd think very carefully and have a good long trial on the instrument before you decide that moving from a 450 to an R13 is an 'upgrade'
jez
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