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 Reed vibration in relationship to the ligature
Author: Clarinetgirl06 
Date:   2005-04-03 22:37

Okay, me and my friend want to design our own ligature. We know that a piece of equipment won't make us better players or anything, but we just want to design one for fun and actually see our ideas come to fruition.

We need help on the scientific aspects of reed vibration, especially in the relationship with the ligature.

Can anyone help and/or has anyone actually tried this themselves?

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 Re: Reed vibration in relationship to the ligature
Author: John Stackpole 
Date:   2005-04-04 00:31

I haven't looked thru the site with your question in mind, but a good starting point might be the physics guys at New South Wales, Australia

http://www.phys.unsw.edu.au/~jw/woodwind.html

Or you could apply for admission and do the research yourself....

JDS

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 Re: Reed vibration in relationship to the ligature
Author: Contra 
Date:   2005-04-04 02:01

I once tied an old, thin string necklace around my mouthpiece and reed. It worked pretty well.

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 Re: Reed vibration in relationship to the ligature
Author: BobD 
Date:   2005-04-04 13:30

Wouldn't it be great if one could view "movies" showing X-rays of the mouth plus the vibration of the reed.....under different conditions!

Bob Draznik

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 Re: Reed vibration in relationship to the ligature
Author: Clarinetgirl06 
Date:   2005-04-04 19:00

That would be nice! Is it possible to have a ligature that just touches the reed and not the mouthpiece and it only touches the reed at one point? I am trying to work on a thumb like ligature, because most people say that they get the best sound when using only their thumb. I have some ideas, but does anyone know how I could actually acheive this?

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 Re: Reed vibration in relationship to the ligature
Author: BobD 
Date:   2005-04-04 21:32

Yes, simply embed a magnet in the lay of the mp and glue a piece of iron to the reed. Or.....you could have your thumb attached to your chin.

Bob Draznik

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 Re: Reed vibration in relationship to the ligature
Author: Ken Mills 
Date:   2005-04-04 21:57

Dear Clarinetgirl; Look at Stanley Drucker play a free blowing staccato. A metal ligature he has. If the ligature is a bit loose, I found that the clarion notes are very hard to start. That means that something like a cloth ligature is illogical. Again, cf Drucker because the reed needs to be pushed very firmly at, say, two small points to get past that problem. Something like the Otto Link with one knob to push a two pointed plate down on the reed at equal force at both points is what we need. But the Link is made only for saxophones. See me in San Francisco for the best sound that a busy shopper was able to get. I am happy with my tonguing too, nothing lascivious or licentious or libidinous implied. Best Wishes, Ken

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 Re: Reed vibration in relationship to the ligature
Author: Clarinetgirl06 
Date:   2005-04-05 03:04

Ken- I'm kinda confused about what you are saying. Sorry. I'm not dumb, but can you explain a little more?

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 Re: Reed vibration in relationship to the ligature
Author: Ken Mills 
Date:   2005-04-05 20:32

Dear Clarinetgirl; There is a lot of force or air pressure trying to push the reed away from the mpc table. It seems to work better if it is clamped down pretty hard but not banded all around the reed's shank from side to side.
I am just so happy with my sound, now if only I knew more notes. But I have been recently mastering tritone substitution in my choice of scales as I play jazz solos without slurring all the notes -- with a good ligature. Slurring, trombone players have to be taught to tongue EVERY note or it would sound weird or ridiculous. The Best, Ken

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 Re: Reed vibration in relationship to the ligature
Author: Ken Mills 
Date:   2005-04-06 01:14

Dear Clarinetgirl; I should have put it this way. As the air column goes through the mpc the reed vibrates in protest against being pushed off the table. Now matter how soft it is, it will not be pushed closed, but won't have enough room to vibrate, so it fails to respond. My reed is a Marca #2. It is slightly hard for my Vandoren 5JB. Additionally, I filed the side walls further apart next to the bore to allow more air to get through to drive this reed. It is a hotrod! And I think that I am using the more or less correct metal ligature. Nobody can stand up to me outdoors unless they play the trumpet.

More power, Ken

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