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 Steuer and AW reeds
Author: clarisax 
Date:   2005-04-02 03:53

a few days ago i listened to a recording of Sabine Meyer playing the mozart concerto and weber 1. i basically fell in love with her tone as soon as she played the first note. she is simply amazing in my opinion. i, like every other clarinet player in the world, am constantly striving to get better tone. i think i found a new ideal in sound and tone when i listened to her play. i looked on her website and found links to the reeds that she apparently uses. they are "Frima Steuer" and "AW-Reeds." im pretty positive that she plays german system clarinets and german mouthpieces so its no surprise that she plays german style reeds.

my question : has anyone ever used either one of these brands?? i currently use vandoren black master size 5 and occasionally a v12 size 5 on my morgan rm06 mouthpiece. since i get good results out of the german cut black masters would the german reeds that she uses also work for me? my problem with the black masters is that they last about an hour and then die on me, even if i break them in slowly. im just curious and i really have never heard of either of these reeds before.

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 Re: Steuer and AW reeds
Author: Liquorice 
Date:   2005-04-02 06:01

Steuer also makes a French cut reed. I personally don't lke them, but of course you have to try them for yourself.

"my problem with the black masters is that they last about an hour and then die on me"

Whar are you doing to them??? :-)

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 Re: Steuer and AW reeds
Author: blue_dog 
Date:   2011-04-14 18:03

Maybe it's just me, but I can't get around the names White Master or Black Master.

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 Re: Steuer and AW reeds
Author: David Spiegelthal 2017
Date:   2011-04-14 20:10

I've used Steuer reeds occasionally for the past few years, they have their good and bad points, methinks. I got mine via The Infernal Internet Auction Site Whose Name Shall Not Be Mentioned from a dealer in Poland named Marek Piotrowski (spelling could be a bit off!) who deals as "mpmusic" (I've had very good luck with purchases from him, no problems at all).

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 Re: Steuer and AW reeds
Author: luca1 
Date:   2011-04-14 20:44

I have just been playing through about 4 boxes of the AW reeds (available via a USA supplier) and find them very good indeed. They have both French and German cuts, and the consistancy is great. ....not so sure you'll have instant "Sabrine" tone however: some things money can't buy!
All the best!

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 Re: Steuer and AW reeds
Author: donald 
Date:   2011-04-14 20:49

I have no opinion on Steuer or AW reeds, have tried the Steuer some time ago, am interested in trying the AW....
BUT i think you'll find that Sabine Meyer uses reeds made for her by her husband. You can even find a clip on You Tube of them sitting down while she plays through different reeds and he discusses the quality of different cane sources... It may be, of course, that she keeps at hand a variety of reeds from different sources- some made for her, some commercial ones.
Good luck
dn
ps- i'd LOVE to have a reed making spouse!

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 Re: Steuer and AW reeds
Author: Liquorice 
Date:   2011-04-14 21:10

I've seen that video. At one point Sabine complains to Reiner that the reed he has just made is both too soft and too hard. Which made me think that perhaps having a reed-making spouse isn't necessarily the best thing for a marriage?!

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 Re: Steuer and AW reeds
Author: Ed Palanker 
Date:   2011-04-15 00:17

You're dreaming if you think that using the same reed and or mouthpiece and clarinet as someone else uses that you will sound just like them. It just doesn't work that way. ESP http://eddiesclarinet.com

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 Re: Steuer and AW reeds
Author: graham 
Date:   2011-04-15 09:06

Steuer German reeds play closer to White Master than to Black Master. Their French reeds make a lovely sound on my set up, but they are very fatiguing to play. They give no room for maneovre, so to speak, so I had to give up on them. But a professional might not notice such an issue

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 Re: Steuer and AW reeds
Author: Bassie 
Date:   2011-04-15 10:09

AW are OK. A bit harder than the same number Vandoren. Last well.

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 Re: Steuer and AW reeds
Author: clariknight 
Date:   2011-04-15 10:49

I recently have been trying some AW French cut reeds, to mixed results. They are quite consistent (I got 7 out of one box that all played fairly well), and they do seem to be lasting quite a bit longer than the V12s I normally play on given a similar break in procedure and rotation system. However, I still find something lacking in the sound I get. I'm going to keep working with them, however, and see if that something maybe just isn't a vandoren something that is not a necessity to a good sound, but rather just something that I am used to.

Of course, you have to try them to know if they'll work for you. I got mine from justforwinds.com. A tad more expensive than Vandorens, but of course they don't have a fancy gigantic North American importer like Vandoren does.

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 Re: Steuer and AW reeds
Author: Red Chair 
Date:   2011-04-29 15:53

In the same style of cut as the Steuer are the Leuthner reeds, available in a Vienna, German and French cut. A short cut reed I have many colleagues who use these reeds with great success. IMO they are very consistent, much more then the Steuer

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