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Author: Iplayclarinet
Date: 2005-03-29 01:12
ok everyone heres the deal. i was reading some posts today, specifically the one that asked how to get a darker tone. one reply i read said to put some fabric under the ligature to get a dark smooth sound. i have a vandoren optimum ligature, nd i am using the plate with the 4 dots, so i cut a chunk off of an old swab i had and i put it under the lig. WOW! i could tell the difference right away, it was like a night and day change, not one of those things where you think it might have changed but you couldnt tell this was well.. WOW. everyone should try this it is an amazing improvement on my sound.
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Author: CPW
Date: 2005-03-29 01:42
Was it cotton or silk
was it microfiber
flax, or some other of that ilk
These things we must know
if the dark sound is to grow
Was it washed in Tide
or Murphy oil soap
Pinesol or Fab
We mustnt blindly grope
You hold the key
and to you, great oracle
we bend the knee
this elusive darkness of tone
How is it done
To your godliness we must atone.
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Author: GBK
Date: 2005-03-29 01:59
Ode to a Ligature
Finding a great lig is one costly chore,
Order on-line, have them sent to your door.
Easy response, good color and dark tone,
Is what we all want when the clarinet is blown.
So what is the factor that makes one the best?
A lig that stands out, oh so far from the rest.
I'm sorry to say that you'll soon be misled.
'Cause the concept of sound starts in your head.
...GBK
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Author: sfalexi
Date: 2005-03-29 03:11
Iplay,
Congrats on the find! You found something you like, so now just stick with it! I did some experimenting and am sticking with what I have found to be the best so far.
Alexi
US Army Japan Band
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Author: CPW
Date: 2005-03-29 03:49
metal is the devil
fabric is the scourge
woven is verboten
and string...to be abhored
So what shall we use
I feel so dumb
no ligature sounds better
than when I use MY THUMB
(maybe that is what the finger was doing in the Wendy's bowl of chili)*
*for those of you in Oz and elsewhere, a finger was recently found in a bowl of chili in a US fast food restaurant. This, of course, made more news in the media than the rising gasoline costs.
Against the windmills of my mind
The jousting pole splinters
Post Edited (2005-03-29 03:53)
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Author: Carol Dutcher
Date: 2005-03-29 04:04
Speaking of chili, the investigators asked all the employees at the restaurant that day to hold out their hands, so they could see if everybody had all their fingers. What is wrong with this picture? If I was missing a finger, I think I'd go home sick, wouldn't you? The finger in question was nicely manicured. Oh drat! Lost a nail today.
Almost as strange was when somebody found a breaded, fried mouse in their Kentucky Fried.
I'm through now with this nauseating post.
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Author: Ken Shaw ★2017
Date: 2005-03-29 15:24
Kentucky Fried Mouse (usually Kentucky Fried Rat) is one of the oldest and most famous Urban Legends. According to the definitive site, it's probably false, and even the more credible claims (e.g., chicken head) are dubious http://www.snopes.com/horrors/food/friedrat.htm.
However, I work on reeds at my kitchen table, and some slivers may have gotten into a recent meatloaf. ![[tongue]](http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/smileys/smilie6.gif)
Ken Shaw
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Author: Ralph G
Date: 2005-03-29 16:36
Vandy-loaf isn't as good as it used to be. Gonzalez-loaf is where it's at.
________________
Artistic talent is a gift from God and whoever discovers it in himself has a certain obligation: to know that he cannot waste this talent, but must develop it.
- Pope John Paul II
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Author: Alseg
Date: 2005-03-29 16:37
Argentinian steak, organically raised, ala Gonzalez, with chipotle salsa.
mmmmmmm ![[hot]](http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/smileys/hot.gif)
Former creator of CUSTOM CLARINET TUNING BARRELS by DR. ALLAN SEGAL
-Where the Sound Matters Most(tm)-
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Author: Bob A
Date: 2005-03-29 16:56
To GBK-re ligatures.
They MRI'ed my head and found nothing in it--
So, do I abandon the search before I began it?
Bob A
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Author: Avie
Date: 2005-03-29 17:00
The type of material beneath the ligature will effect the tone of the clarinet. The tone would probably appear to be darker after losing a finger. Not a very bright thought for sure ![[huh]](http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/smileys/smilie11.gif)
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Author: Bob A
Date: 2005-03-29 17:07
That's the last time he will give the Cook 'the finger". They said the fingerprint might identify the provider.
Bob A
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Author: BlockEyeDan
Date: 2005-03-29 18:07
Talks of ligatures and various straps,
All as predictable as a game of craps.
A thin strip of duck tape is quite a rebuttal;
Why not for me if it worked for the shuttle?
Fingers and digits of various sorts,
Some neatly manicured, others with warts.
If they played clarinet, they shouldn't lose heart;
Just check the alternate fingering chart!
Post Edited (2005-03-29 19:11)
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Author: Iplayclarinet
Date: 2005-03-29 19:45
well to let everyone know it was an old buffet swab, i think it came with the clarinet, looks to be cotton, it has the logo printed everywhere in blue and red. so there ya go
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Author: Bob A
Date: 2005-03-29 19:56
Block-eye-Dan has got you beat!
GBK is in defeat!
Or should that read--Is in RETREAT
Bob A
Post Edited (2005-03-29 19:56)
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Author: GBK
Date: 2005-03-29 20:10
BlockEyeDan and I - two poets in training,
Making original verse is getting quite draining.
We're really good friends, even with this display.
He's one of my kind - he plays a Buffet!
Young and creative - but alas, not my age.
I knew when a buck was the minimum wage.
I'll put down my pen, for I'm out of ideas.
Let's meet on Block Island and share some tortillas...GBK
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Author: Bob A
Date: 2005-03-29 22:19
I stand "connected." GBK You're still the champ!
Bob A
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Author: DavidBlumberg
Date: 2005-03-30 12:45
I wouldn't be using the 4 dots on the optimum in the first place. What you could do (Moennig idea) is to cut a piece of leather from a Sax pad and use that as the material to put under the contact points.
But I'd use the bars instead (2 bar or the wavy ones) for the Optimum Ligature.
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Author: BlockEyeDan
Date: 2005-03-30 16:29
GBK is a learned sage,
His know-all spans volumes,
as opposed to my page.
I try to absorb,
buy my retention is slow;
He's probably forgotten
More than I'll ever know.
Block Island and Buffet,
his points are dead-on.
He's painted a picture
of where my life's gone.
He's blown my cover,
much to my annoyance,
but that's probably due
to his innate clairvoyance!
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Author: GBK
Date: 2005-03-30 16:55
Block Island by boat - we go every summer.
But the traffic is really becoming a bummer.
At least in the Hamptons cars are in control.
Except for the ones driven by Billy Joel.
...GBK
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Author: BlockEyeDan
Date: 2005-03-30 17:01
Ahh, the Hamptons
refuge of the rich.
Though more New Yorkers
are now making the switch.
"My how pretty!"
exclaimed one with a fork;
"I never knew this was
part of New York!"
To boat to Block Island
from Montauk is preferred.
Though one should make sure
that lunch is deferred.
For while the compass shows North-Northeast,
The turbulent shoals are much like a beast!
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Author: clarispark
Date: 2005-03-30 17:22
Fantastic poems...
I love the clarinet, play it every day
Though I'm deciding my practice habits don't pay
Since it got me into college, I should be yelling "Yay!"
But instead, I'd like to say...
I'm getting bored. Time to take up another clarinet (alto or something, I guess...)
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Author: Dan Shusta
Date: 2005-03-30 20:08
To Iplayclarinet:
IMO, you are absolutely correct. Placing material between the reed and the ligature does affect the characteristics of the tone. I have done this many times with a synthetic reed that came with rubber inserts of various densities that were to be placed between the top of the reed and the mouthpiece (I believe it was the Hartman reed).
So, Iplayclarinet, believe your ears when it comes to changes in sound that you perceive! If it sounds darker to you...that is all that matters. All of us, IMO, have to rely upon our own ears to achieve the tonal characteristics that are important to us.
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