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 A practice routing for someone who doesn't like to practice
Author: mikecbonner 
Date:   2005-03-18 17:40

A few days ago I read a post concerning practice routine, and some great advice was given in regards to setting goals for yourself. Well, I believe that I am at a crossroads, and I need to rethink how I play. I don't take lessons, and I play entirely for fun. In fact, it is for me a means to relax, for I have a busy schedule thoughout the week, and that does not include practicing. So, my goal is not lofty, it is just to enjoy playing music. However, even though I have been messing around for almost a year, I realize that I'm not getting any better, because I don't have a rigorous practice shedule. Furthermore, I don't want a rigorous practice schedule. Practicing, for the most part, I find laborious, which is what I'm trying to get away from by playing music after a long day. So, I do want to get better, for obvious reasons, without it becoming a chore on top of the other priorities in my life. Now, I know that I'm going to have to eventually buckle down and do a little work in order to improve my skills, but I would like playing clarinet to be mostly fun with a little bit of work. Does anyone have any suggestions as to what I should concentrate on (given the little time I spend practicing, what would be the most advantagous things I could do). Also, does anyone have any tricks that makes the hard work fun? Oh, by the way, I like to play jazz the most, with the occasional church hymn thrown in there.
Thanks, Mike.

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 Re: A practice routing for someone who doesn't like to practice
Author: Dano 
Date:   2005-03-18 18:31

I think that playing with other musicians is pretty important if you want to get better at the clarinet, or any musical instrument. There is no practice that makes you become better, than trying to keep up with others. That in itself makes you practice without finding it laborious. Not being able to play the way I need to play for certain gigs keeps me glued to my clarinet without ever thinking of it as practice. I just make sure that I can play what I need to play. Thinking of it as "practice" sometimes makes it feel like a chore. Incorporating scales into improvisations also helps me. You can do millions of renditions of a simple tune like Amazing Grace or any of the traditional songs. I have been playing for about 40 of my 47 years and took lessons from 7 years old until I was about 20 years old. I never got into too much formal classical music other than what my teacher made me do and the few orchestras that I felt forced to join. I am sure that most on this board are much more into "practicing" than I am and you will get some serious recomendations. Just thought I would let you know how one of us handles practice. BTW, I also only do jazz type gigs.



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 Re: A practice routing for someone who doesn't like to practice
Author: ron b 
Date:   2005-03-18 20:52

Hi, Mike:

[Preface: Some of the best advise I've ever gotten has come, not from formal lessons, but from fellow musicians - regardless of what instrument(s) they played. It's all good and it's all about making music.]

First of all, I don't consider myself a teacher in the usual sense. So, I can't tell you what works or doesn't work. And, even if I could, I don't know you or your personal motivation or how well you play well enough to advise you anyway. Fact is... you could probably teach me a lot. However, I can share some of my own personal experience with you about people I do know who are similar to you and your situation, from what you tell us in your post. My philosophy about making music is very much like Dano's. If making music isn't fun, to me, I don't do it...

I love playing and sharing as I'm able to so do. That's my personality. I have two friends I've known since before they decided to take up an instrument and have watched and participated in their progress, one for a year and the other for two years. My first 'rule', when they were getting started and asked my opinion, was to play no longer than ten to twenty minutes a day. They're both guilty of breaking The Rule big time, almost from the very beginning. They 'practice' at least a half hour to an hour or more almost every day with no prodding or outside motivation and it all comes from within. They're self-motivated like you, Mike. They do music because of interest, for fun and for relaxation.

So, on this note, these two sorta-students have come into my life; one sorta 'regular' student and one 'once-in-awhile' student (like you, very busy schedules). And, like you, Mike, they just want to play for fun. The sorta student, young fella, home schooled with a very full day of study, plays regularly, weekly, unaccompanied, at a convalescent home. The once-in-awhile student, professional man with very full schedule (often, early morning 'til late evening) is a strictly at-home-for-personal-enjoyment musician. The sorta student also plays regularly in our church emsemble and I'm encouraging the at home one to join us - if at first just to "get the feel" of group participation - not playing, just settling in (we'll see how long that lasts  :) ) .

They both play remarkably well. Sorta-player plays lead clarinet in a church ensemble now, can transpose from concert written parts at will (can play [tenor part] from hymnal bass clef as well), and plays pretty well by ear. He also plays harmonica, recorder, and is considering taking up alto sax. At home player enjoys playing for friends, strictly solo, and does very well.

They know what tetrachords are, how to construct a major scale. They know about triads and inversions and are very good about figuring out rhythmic patterns - then fitting the notes to the patterns. We're discussing now about personal interpretation and expression and ensemble and solo performance. None of this is "work", mind you, they look, listen and play because they like doing it. No rigid lesson plan, no pressure to pass any test.

With both players, when we meet we usually go over some basic theory, Q&A time, and do scales, chromatics, thirds and intervals to warm up. Then we play duets for fun and to work out any fingering and phrasing that might need attention. They pick the music. No pressue. No deadlines. No grading system. Just makin' music together 'cause we like to. And, best of all, they're doing quite well and are an encouragement to me to try t' keep up with 'em.

I think you're on the right track, Mike, and, along with Dano, encourage you to find a group to make music with  :)


- r[cool]n b -

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 Re: A practice routing for someone who doesn't like to practice
Author: leonardA 
Date:   2005-03-18 21:29

I do practice some exercises, but mostly I find more enjoyment when I practice real music that I like that has certain challenges similar to those found in the exercises. So I would think based on your post that playing real music would make "practicing" more enjoyable for you.

Leonard

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 Re: A practice routing for someone who doesn't like to practice
Author: sfalexi 
Date:   2005-03-19 22:10

leonardA wrote:

> I do practice some exercises, but mostly I find more enjoyment
> when I practice real music that I like that has certain
> challenges similar to those found in the exercises. So I would
> think based on your post that playing real music would make
> "practicing" more enjoyable for you.
>

I also currently play just for fun and fully intend to play just for fun in the future. I've found (like in Leonard A's quote above) that very often those fun pieces of music you love playing will almost ALWAYS encompass those scales, thirds, etc. that I at least find slightly annoying to practice.

I found this out after buying a book of scales, and when I run through a certain scale, I'll think, "Oh. This is just like that part in the Mozart" or when I run through a diminished seventh scale I think, "Oh. This is just like what Carl Von Weber wrote in his concertino". The latest 'realization' I had was when I play the third movement of the first concerto by Carl Von Weber, go to the scale book, and realize that the figure running from a low F# ending on a clarion A is a run of a "dominant 7th" pattern.


So one thing you might want to do (if you don't feel like running every scale, every day, if you're just playing for fun) is find a piece of music you like, and study whatever is relevant to THAT piece of music. Or even just a PART of a piece of music. You come upon a wierd succession of notes, go through a scale book, figure out if it's any "common" run (is it thirds, fourths, dim 7th, dom 7th, arpeggio of major or minor, etc.), and then practice the exercises pertaining to that particular run (ie - practice all exercises dealing with the thirds, dom 7th, WHATEVER it happens to be). This will engrain it into your playing, will allow you to play that piece MUCH better, and you'll be THAT much better off for if you see it again.

Alexi

US Army Japan Band

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