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 Reicha Wind Quintets - and a few other questions
Author: Mario Poirier 
Date:   2005-03-13 16:31

Dear friends:

We are putting together a wind quintet out of the orchestra (Ottawa Chamber Orchestra). We will be featuring Ibert and Lefebre as well as Danzi Op. 56 in Bb.

We would like to include one (1) quintet from Reicha (out of his set of 24). We do not have a recording not previous exposure to this composer. We are looking at choosing a quintet with much musical maturity, depth and experience of the medium. Which one would you recommend as a great example of the contribution of Reicha to the wind quintet music?

Just by curiosity, would the Op. 56 in Bb be your choice for a first forey into Danzi?

We have the Andraud's book. Based on your experience, which other original quintets (besides the Lefebre of course) would be worth featuring in a public concert?

Many thanks

Mario Poirier

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 Re: Reicha Wind Quintets - and a few other questions
Author: chicagoclar 
Date:   2005-03-14 00:07

The Taffanel is frequently performed is fun to play. The Haydn Presto is fun. It's nothing serious, but can be used to lighten a heavy recital.

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 Re: Reicha Wind Quintets - and a few other questions
Author: diz 
Date:   2005-03-14 00:47

I think, and someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but Reicha is considered the "father" of the form.

Without music, the world would be grey, very grey.

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 Re: Reicha Wind Quintets - and a few other questions
Author: John J. Moses 
Date:   2005-03-14 01:13

As I have posted in earlier threads, I like the following woodwind quintets:

The Andraud Books (the red/orange ones) 21 Quintets
Arnold - Sea Shanties
Barber - Summer Music
Bozza - Variations
Carter - Quintet
Damase - 17 Variations
Danzi - Quintets
Fine - Partita
Francaix - Wind Quintet
Goeb - Quintets 1 & 2
Gould - Pavanne
Hindemith - Kleine Kammermusik
Ibert - "The 3 Bears"
Milhaud - The Chimney of King Rene
Nielsen - Quintet
Persichetti - Pastoral
Piston - Quintet
Ravel - Pavane & Piece in the Form of a Habanera
Reicha - Quintets
Riegger - Blaserquintett
Ropartz - 10 Pieces
Schoenberg - Quintet
Taffanel - Wind Quintet

Bill McGlaughlin writes:

"If one could make a very good case for Joseph Haydn as the father of the string quartet, there's even more certitude in naming the Bohemian-born composer Anton Reicha (1770-1836) as father of the wind quintet. In fact today, Reicha's name is known among musicians almost entirely for his essays in this form - the ensemble of flute, oboe, clarinet, bassoon, and French horn. Reicha composed often for the wind quintet, beginning with a piece he wrote in 1811 in Paris and continuing through the rest of his years to 1836. His pieces are at the very base of the wind-quintet repertoire, just as Haydn's work forms the foundation of the string-quartet literature."

JJM
Légère Artist
Clark W. Fobes Artist

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 Re: Reicha Wind Quintets - and a few other questions
Author: Jack Kissinger 
Date:   2005-03-14 03:28

Most of the quintet players I have talked to around here consider Op. 88, No. 2 the place to start with Reicha. If anyone in your quintet belongs to the International Double Reed Society, you can download scores and parts for very well done new editions of all the Reicha, Danzi and Cambini quintets for free either in Adobe Acrobat .pdf form or Finale form. I find the .pdf files a bit small and difficult to read. I think it's worth downloading the Finale versions, picking up the free Finale Notepad software from Coda Technology's website and using it to print out those versions.

I think Op. 56, No. 2 is a great place to start with Danzi.

For about $US 20, you should be able to subscribe to www.naxos.com and you will have access to virtually all the recordings in their catalog, including many that are currently out of print. You can stream a number of the Reicha and, I think, all of the Danzi quintets in very good performances. Alternatively, you can open a free account and listen to about the first 25% of each movement.

BTW, if you're a fan of late romantics, you will probably like the Klughardt Quintet.

Best regards,
jnk

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 Re: Reicha Wind Quintets - and a few other questions
Author: graham 
Date:   2005-03-14 11:48

auroraensemble@hotmail.com

Try the above email address to ask for suggestions from one of the UK's most enterprising professional quintets. Frankly, despite the history of the wind quintet medium, Reicha and Danzi's contribution is very weak. I would not bother with them, either for personal enjoyment or the audience's.

For my own part the Ligeti works are a good challenge and the earlier six pieces are audience friendly as well. Barber Summer Music is very good. Another Malcolm Arnold has just been unearthed and seemed good when I played it in October. Rene's Chimney is good fun, and the Taffanel is gutsy. Why not ask Aurora Ensemble for suggestions which go far beyond this?

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 Re: Reicha Wind Quintets - and a few other questions
Author: DavidBlumberg 
Date:   2005-03-14 16:05

post edited



Post Edited (2005-03-14 19:17)

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 Re: Reicha Wind Quintets - and a few other questions
Author: Ken Shaw 2017
Date:   2005-03-14 16:28

The International Double Reed Society has scores and parts in PDF format for all the Reicha and Danzi quintets on their site. It's worth joining for that resource alone. <www.idrs.org>

The modern publications of the Reicha quintets are heavily cut. Op. 88 # 2 in Eb, which every quintet does, is nearly twice as long as the version you find in the stores and on recordings. I heard a complete recording, and it has elaborate fugues and all kinds of diversions and excursions, which could easily take up half a program. Several of the Reicha quintets are for clarinet in C. Also, the clarinetist was apparently switching over from another instrument when Reicha started writing quintets, and the clarinet parts in the early quintets are quite simple. Later on, they were the same as the other parts.

Ken Shaw

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 Re: Reicha Wind Quintets - and a few other questions
Author: DavidBlumberg 
Date:   2005-03-14 16:49

if you e-mail me, I can send you a link to hear Reicha's #2 quintet last mvt.

Good stuff.

david@mytempo (NOSPAM).com



Post Edited (2005-03-14 19:18)

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 Re: Reicha Wind Quintets - and a few other questions
Author: Mario Poirier 
Date:   2005-03-15 18:00

Thank you very much everybody for the info. This was quite helpful.

Mario Poirier

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