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 vowels? consonants?
Author: music_is_life 
Date:   2005-03-06 04:32

what's the vowel (consonant??) your supposed to "say" while playing? I cant remember....actually I think I read somewhere that one should avoid vowels because to speak using a vowel draws the tongue down into an undesirable position where the mouth is more open and the air is thus not directed right at the opening of the MP. so I guess, what should I be "saying" while playing? I need to work on my tongue position because even when I slur, going over the break (from throat A /Bb to Bnatural/C and the other one...high two ledger lines C to C#) my tongue moves and seems to do something to my air, so that the volume drops when going up...I use air support, so it's not that. Looking in the mirror, I can see my tongue move, but I dont actually want it to! It's subconcious! but if I knew what letter (or word) to think, to keep my tongue in the right position, that would help

-Lindsie



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 Re: vowels? consonants?
Author: John Stackpole 
Date:   2005-03-06 12:01

Best I can offer - from my lessons long ago, and more recent review of beginner/intermediate lesson books - is "tu" or "to".

The "t" part is when your tongue is lightly touching the reed, but, I gather, not completely stopping the flow of air. Just keeping the reed from vibrating. A spoken "to" does stop air flow.

And, of course, the "o" or "u" part is when you open things up.

One book said "du" which reflects a change in the position of the back of the tongue - lower down. Better tone result? I dunno.

So there you go - two consonants and two vowels - take your pick! (I don't think "ou" will work, however.)

JDS

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 Re: vowels? consonants?
Author: sfalexi 
Date:   2005-03-06 20:23

I never thought about what vowel I would be pronouncing with my tongue position and what not, but if anything, it seems to me (after some odd experimentation of shouting out various syllabols trying to figure it out) the the sound I'd be saying would probably be "Dee".

The "D" would be tonguing the reed, and the "ee" seems to be the tongue/mouth position I'd be in. I don't sing THROUGH the instrument while playing (although I have, just to see if I could do it), but if I WERE going to say a syllable/sound, it'd probably come out as "Dee".

Alexi

US Army Japan Band

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 Re: vowels? consonants?
Author: jArius 
Date:   2005-03-07 00:00

Lol when you sing through the instrument it sounds kind of like a digeridoo (sp).

Jeremy Bruins

Proud member of the too-much-time-on-my-hands club.

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 Re: vowels? consonants?
Author: John Stackpole 
Date:   2005-03-07 10:41

Or a REALLY upscale kazoo

JDS

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 Re: vowels? consonants?
Author: elmo lewis 
Date:   2005-03-09 01:44

There is no one single vowel or consonant that needs to be used. When tounging there are different consonant-vowel combinations that produce different kinds of articulation (tee, too, tah, dee, doo). Which one you use depends on the musical context. Different vowels can produce different types of sound quality. I sometimes have a student experiment with different vowels until we find one that works. Even after we settle on one vowel there usually comes a time when we change the vowel temporarily to make a certain passage sound better. You could ask your teacher to work with you on this or get another clarinetist and experiment a little.

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 Re: vowels? consonants?
Author: idahofats 
Date:   2005-03-10 01:33

D'oh works---but only for Homer...

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