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Author: jim lande
Date: 2005-03-01 04:41
Results from the February 2005 survey of metal clarinet prices on eBay
Conclusions: same as last year. [see http://tinyurl.com/54o5d ]
1) You can buy a repairable student model for $30 to $50, or you can pay a couple hundred. Your choice.
2) A lot of metal clarinets are sold without barrels or with obvious damage.
3) Some pro horns go for less than some student models.
185 auctions closed in February, including one lot of 3 and one lot of 6. (175 in 2004)
156 auctions received bids.
$107 was the average high bid ($99 in 2004)
114 auctions were for complete, un-restored Bb student models. (excludes 4 auctions where I had questions about bidding)
$71 average price for these, ($65 in 2004; $61 in 2003)
$51 median price for these ($51 in 2004; $46 in 2003)
$53 Std deviation, ($54 in 2004; $35 in 2003)
17 student models appeared to be missing barrels or had serious damage
$48 average high bid for these. (Don’t make this mistake!)
13 pro models (7% of sample),
final bids on these ranged from $153 to $890
69% of the listed instruments were made in the U.S. (70% in 2004)
14% were made in France (17% in 2004)
77 different model names
22% maker not known
8% Cundy Bettoney
28% C.G. Conn
8% H.N. White
8% LeBlanc
no bid Three -- best is a U.S. (Military) Cundy Bettoney with "A" serial number; ; ; multiple listing
$102.50 Bettoney (not clear what model); ; ; Painted blue
$305.00 Cleveland; H. N. White (1895 - 1955(?)) Cleveland; U.S.; intermediate
$189.00 Bundy; Henri Selmer (1885 - current) ; France; Intermediate Missing barrel or serious damage
$ 35.00 Boston Wonder; Cundy Bettoney (1907-1950) Boston; U.S.; Intermediate
$158.50 U.S. (Military); Cundy Bettoney (1907-1950) Boston (Serial number starts with "A"); U.S.; Intermediate?
$264.06 U.S. (Military); Cundy Bettoney (1907-1950) Boston (Serial number starts with "A"); U.S.; Intermediate?
$152.59 Boosey & Hawkes; Boosey & Hawkes (1930 - after 1950); U.K.; may vary
$210.59 C.G. Conn ; models 514N (1879 - 1950) Elkhart; U.S.; Might be Pro
$ 82.40 No model name; HUELLER (Saxony); Germany; no opinion No barrel but 7 rings
$525.00 Beaumont Paris; ; ; Not sure
$723.40 Silva Bet; Cundy Bettoney (1907-1950) Boston; U.S.; Pro Restored
$307.00 Silver King; H. N. White (1895 - 1955(?)) Cleveland; U.S.; Pro Missing barrel or serious damage
$205.00 C.G. Conn ; models 514N, 524N, 524N & 1534N C.G. Conn (1879 - 1950) Elkhart; U.S.; Pro bad plating & bad keys
$152.50 Truetone Buescher 710; Buescher (1894 - p1950) Elkhart; U.S.; Pro Albert - restored
no bid Silver King; H. N. White (1895 - 1955(?)) Cleveland; U.S.; Pro
no bid Master Model; Henri Selmer (1885 - current) ; France; Pro
no bid Silver King; H. N. White (1895 - 1955(?)) Cleveland; U.S.; Pro
$201.50 Truetone Buescher 740; Buescher (1894 - p1950) Elkhart; U.S.; Pro
$202.50 Silver King; H. N. White (1895 - 1955(?)) Cleveland; U.S.; Pro
$202.50 Silver King; H. N. White (1895 - 1955(?)) Cleveland; U.S.; Pro
$535.00 Silver King; H. N. White (1895 - 1955(?)) Cleveland; U.S.; Pro
$669.00 Truetone Buescher 730; Buescher (1894 - p1950) Elkhart; U.S.; Pro
$890.00 Master Model; Henri Selmer (1885 - current) ; France; Pro
$ 44.00 Two metals, Bettoney & Pedler + plastic bundy; ; U.S.; Student two metal clarinets
$280.00 Noblet; LeBlanc (1904 - current) La Couture & Paris (models with raised diamond on bell were better quality); France; Student restored
no bid Triumph ; ; U.S.; Student Missing barrel or serious damage
no bid American Standard; H. N. White (1895 - 1955(?)) Cleveland; U.S.; Student Missing barrel or serious damage
no bid Regent; Ohio Band Instrument (probably Reynolds); U.S.; Student Missing barrel or serious damage
no bid Collegiate; Holton (1907 to p1950) Elkhorn Wisc.; U.S.; Student Missing barrel or serious damage
no bid no model name; ; ; Student Missing barrel or serious damage
$ 9.99 Regent; Ohio Band Instrument (probably Reynolds); U.S.; Student Missing barrel or serious damage
$ 26.00 Continental; Continental was a C.G. Conn subsidiary formed in 1923; U.S.; Student Missing barrel or serious damage
$ 26.00 American Gloritone; Penzel Muller (1899 - p1955) New York; U.S.; Student Missing barrel or serious damage
$ 26.01 Bettoney; ; U.S.; Student Missing barrel or serious damage
$ 33.99 American Standard; H. N. White (1895 - 1955(?)) Cleveland; U.S.; Student Missing barrel or serious damage
$ 36.78 Collegiate; Holton (1907 to p1950) Elkhorn Wisc.; U.S.; Student Missing barrel or serious damage
$ 42.00 Henry LaVelle; H. Grossman (1921 - 1944?) Cleveland; U.S.; Student Missing barrel or serious damage
$ 44.00 Noblet; LeBlanc (1904 - current) La Couture & Paris (models with raised diamond on bell were better quality); France; Student Missing barrel or serious damage
$ 49.99 Pathfinder; Fred Gretsch (1883- p1950) Brookline; U.S.; Student Missing barrel or serious damage
$ 58.00 Three Star (3 Star); Cundy Bettoney (1907-1950) Boston; U.S.; Student Missing barrel or serious damage
$ 71.00 Buckingham; ; England; Student Missing barrel or serious damage
$149.99 The Pedler (Co.); Pedler; U.S.; Student Missing barrel or serious damage
$ 99.99 Cavalier; C.G. Conn (1879 - p1950) Elkhart; U.S.; Student bidding question
$124.00 Henri Dubois; ; France; Student bidding question
$174.99 American; Harry Pedler Co (1919 - 1936) Elkhart; U.S.; Student bidding question
$299.99 American Made Easy Play Superior Quality; No crows foot -- might be H.N. White, Pedler or Ohio Music; ; Student bidding question
$ 89.99 Three Star (3 Star); Cundy Bettoney (1907-1950) Boston; U.S.; Student Bettoney mpc
no bid Premier; Harry Pedler Co (1919 - 1936) Elkhart; U.S.; Student Albert
$280.00 Henry Gunckel; Trade name for U.S. import instruments; France; Student albert
$356.99 C. Jeuffroy; Leblanc (1904 - current) La Couture & Paris; France; Student albert
$250.00 Pan American; C.G. Conn & Pan American (1879 - current) Elkhart; U.S.; Student adj barrel
$190.37 Holton, Cadet, Victory, Cleveland, 3 Star, noname; Lot of 6 (one broken key); ; Student
no bid Collegiate; Holton (1907 to p1950) Elkhorn Wisc.; U.S.; Student
no bid Cavalier; C.G. Conn (1879 - p1950) Elkhart; U.S.; Student
no bid P.X. Laube; Progressive Music Company (but also offered by Bettoney); U.S. (one marked France); Student
no bid Bostonian; (Pedler?); ; Student
no bid Noblet; LeBlanc (1904 - current) La Couture & Paris (models with raised diamond on bell were better quality); France; Student
no bid no model name; ; ; Student
no bid No name; ; ; Student
no bid Three Star (3 Star); Cundy Bettoney (1907-1950) Boston; U.S.; Student
no bid American Made Easy Play Superior Quality; ; ; Student
no bid Cavalier; C.G. Conn (1879 - p1950) Elkhart; U.S.; Student
no bid Cavalier; C.G. Conn (1879 - p1950) Elkhart; U.S.; Student
no bid American Standard; H. N. White (1895 - 1955(?)) Cleveland; U.S.; Student
no bid Cavalier; C.G. Conn (1879 - p1950) Elkhart; U.S.; Student
no bid Cavalier; C.G. Conn (1879 - p1950) Elkhart; U.S.; Student
no bid Pedler; Harry Pedler Co (1919 - 1936) Elkhart; U.S.; Student
no bid Cavalier; C.G. Conn (1879 - p1950) Elkhart; U.S.; Student
no bid Euclid's; Cleveland Musical Instruments (owned by H.N. White 1925) was in Euclid Ohio.; U.S.; Student
no bid G. Valette - Paris; Trade name for U.S. import instruments; France ?; Student
$ 15.00 Cavalier; C.G. Conn (1879 - p1950) Elkhart; U.S.; Student
$ 16.01 Topper; ; U.S.? France?; Student
$ 25.52 Dorsay; ; U.S.; Student
$ 25.52 Cavalier; C.G. Conn (1879 - p1950) Elkhart; U.S.; Student
$ 26.00 Pathfinder; Fred Gretsch (1883- p1950) Brookline; U.S.; Student
$ 26.51 Orpheum; ; U.S.; Student
$ 28.00 No model name; ; ; Student
$ 28.00 Continental Colonial; Continental was a C.G. Conn subsidiary formed in 1923; U.S.; Student
$ 29.99 C. Martin Superior; Marked Providence, RI; U.S.; Student
$ 29.99 Noblet; LeBlanc (1904 - current) La Couture & Paris (models with raised diamond on bell were better quality); France; Student
$ 30.00 Kingston; Elkhart Ind.; U.S.; Student
$ 30.00 Premier; Harry Pedler Co (1919 - 1936) Elkhart; U.S.; Student
$ 30.00 Karl Schubert; ; France; Student
$ 31.00 Virginian; ; ; Student
$ 31.00 Beaumont Artist; ; ; Student
$ 31.00 Orpheum; ; U.S.; Student
$ 32.20 Capital; ; U.S.; Student
$ 32.51 Emil Jardin Paris; ; U.S.; Student
$ 33.99 American; Fred Gretch Manufacturing Co. (1883 - post 1950) Brooklyn; U.S.; Student
$ 34.51 American Standard; H. N. White (1895 - 1955(?)) Cleveland; U.S.; Student
$ 35.03 Robert Durand; Robert Durand (mid 20c) Paris; France; Student
$ 36.00 Emil Jardin Paris; ; U.S.; Student
$ 36.00 Regent; Ohio Band Instrument (probably Reynolds); U.S.; Student
$ 36.02 Orpheum; ; U.S.; Student
$ 37.01 no model name; ; France; Student
$ 37.50 Collegiate; Holton (1907 to p1950) Elkhorn Wisc.; U.S.; Student
$ 37.99 Madelon; Cundy Bettoney (1907-1950) Boston; U.S.; Student
$ 38.02 Collegiate; Holton (1907 to p1950) Elkhorn Wisc.; U.S.; Student
$ 39.00 Three Star (3 Star); Cundy Bettoney (1907-1950) Boston; U.S.; Student
$ 39.95 Gladiator; H. N. White (1895 - 1955(?)) Cleveland; U.S.; Student
$ 40.00 Collegiate; Holton (1907 to p1950) Elkhorn Wisc.; U.S.; Student
$ 40.00 American Made Easy Play Superior Quality; No crows foot -- might be H.N. White, Pedler or Ohio Music; ; Student
$ 40.00 Cavalier; C.G. Conn (1879 - p1950) Elkhart; U.S.; Student
$ 41.00 Euclid's; Cleveland Musical Instruments (owned by H.N. White 1925) was in Euclid Ohio.; U.S.; Student
$ 42.01 D Noblet; Leblanc (1904 - current) La Couture & Paris; France; Student
$ 42.01 U.S. Bandmaster; ; Italy; Student
$ 42.02 no model name; ; ; Student
$ 42.52 Noblet; LeBlanc (1904 - current) La Couture & Paris (models with raised diamond on bell were better quality); France; Student
$ 43.00 American Perfection; ; ; Student
$ 43.00 Americanna/Americana; ; U.S.; Student
$ 43.00 Regent; Ohio Band Instrument (probably Reynolds); U.S.; Student
$ 43.23 Continental Colonial; Continental was a C.G. Conn subsidiary formed in 1923; U.S.; Student
$ 44.00 Cavalier; C.G. Conn (1879 - p1950) Elkhart; U.S.; Student
$ 45.00 Regent; Ohio Band Instrument (probably Reynolds); U.S.; Student
$ 46.00 Victory; Oliver Ditson (1888 - 1931) Boston; U.S.; Student
$ 46.00 Cavalier; C.G. Conn (1879 - p1950) Elkhart; U.S.; Student
$ 46.00 Westminster; ; U.S.; Student
$ 46.01 Virtuosa; Lyon & Healy (1864-1940) Chicago; U.S.; Student
$ 46.04 Three Star (3 Star); Cundy Bettoney (1907-1950) Boston; U.S.; Student
$ 49.99 Hoosier; Harry Pedler Co (1919 - 1936) Elkhart; U.S.; Student
$ 49.99 Cavalier; C.G. Conn (1879 - p1950) Elkhart; U.S.; Student
$ 50.00 Cavalier; C.G. Conn (1879 - p1950) Elkhart; U.S.; Student
$ 50.00 Collegiate; Holton (1907 to p1950) Elkhorn Wisc.; U.S.; Student
$ 50.00 No model name; ; ; Student
$ 51.00 Ideal; Some marked Elkhart, some marked Holton; U.S.; Student
$ 51.00 No model name; ; ; Student
$ 51.00 No model name; ; ; Student
$ 52.00 Cavalier; C.G. Conn (1879 - p1950) Elkhart; U.S.; Student
$ 52.01 No model name; ; Italy; Student
$ 55.00 Rene Duval; (There was a Rene Duval in Paris, no information); Italy; Student
$ 55.00 Rene Duval; (There was a Rene Duval in Paris, no information); Italy; Student
$ 55.00 Coudete & Cie; Martin Freres (1840 - 1927) Paris; France; Student
$ 56.00 Sherwood Delux; ; U.S.; Student
$ 56.01 Rene Duval; (There was a Rene Duval in Paris, no information); Italy; Student
$ 56.01 American; Harry Pedler Co (1919 - 1936) Elkhart; U.S.; Student
$ 56.54 No model name; ; ; Student
$ 56.99 Cavalier; C.G. Conn (1879 - p1950) Elkhart; U.S.; Student
$ 58.99 American Knight; ; U.S.; Student
$ 61.00 Euclid's; Cleveland Musical Instruments (owned by H.N. White 1925) was in Euclid Ohio.; U.S.; Student
$ 62.00 Noblet; LeBlanc (1904 - current) La Couture & Paris (models with raised diamond on bell were better quality); France; Student
$ 62.00 Cavalier; C.G. Conn (1879 - p1950) Elkhart; U.S.; Student
$ 64.00 Cavalier; C.G. Conn (1879 - p1950) Elkhart; U.S.; Student
$ 65.00 Regent; Ohio Band Instrument (probably Reynolds); U.S.; Student
$ 66.00 Regent; Ohio Band Instrument (probably Reynolds); U.S.; Student
$ 66.00 Ludwig Standard; Ludwig & Ludwig (?) 1909 - 1929 (primarily drums & banjos, sold to Conn) probably stencil; U.S.; Student
$ 66.00 Cavalier; C.G. Conn (1879 - p1950) Elkhart; U.S.; Student
$ 66.00 Noblet; LeBlanc (1904 - current) La Couture & Paris (models with raised diamond on bell were better quality); France; Student
$ 66.55 no model name; ; ; Student
$ 74.99 Premier; Harry Pedler Co (1919 - 1936) Elkhart; U.S.; Student
$ 76.00 Capital; ; U.S.; Student
$ 77.66 Three Star (3 Star); Cundy Bettoney (1907-1950) Boston; U.S.; Student
$ 78.00 no model name; ; ; Student
$ 78.02 Pan American Special; C.G. Conn & Pan American (1879 - current) Elkhart; U.S.; Student
$ 80.00 Chauvet; ; ; Student
$ 82.00 Collegiate; Holton (1907 to p1950) Elkhorn Wisc.; U.S.; Student
$ 86.00 Hoosier; Harry Pedler Co (1919 - 1936) Elkhart; U.S.; Student
$ 88.09 Collegiate; Holton (1907 to p1950) Elkhorn Wisc.; U.S.; Student
$ 89.99 Ideal; Some marked Elkhart (Elkhorn Wisc?), some marked Holton; U.S.; Student
$ 90.00 Elkhart; Sometimes marked Elkhart Band Instruments; U.S.; Student
$ 90.00 Pan American Special; C.G. Conn & Pan American (1879 - current) Elkhart; U.S.; Student
$ 91.00 Pedler; Harry Pedler Co (1919 - 1936) Elkhart; U.S.; Student
$ 99.99 Pathfinder; Fred Gretsch (1883- p1950) Brookline; U.S.; Student
$107.50 Elkhart; This one marked "Pride of Elkhart"; U.S.; Student
$114.50 Cavalier; C.G. Conn (1879 - p1950) Elkhart; U.S.; Student
$119.50 no model name; ; ; Student
$123.51 Noblet; LeBlanc (1904 - current) La Couture & Paris (models with raised diamond on bell were better quality); France; Student
$124.50 Noblet; LeBlanc (1904 - current) La Couture & Paris (models with raised diamond on bell were better quality); France; Student
$124.99 Dorsay; ; U.S.; Student
$124.99 Three Star (3 Star); Cundy Bettoney (1907-1950) Boston; U.S.; Student
$125.00 Easyplay; ; ; Student
$141.50 Regent; Ohio Band Instrument (probably Reynolds); U.S.; Student
$142.50 Noblet; LeBlanc (1904 - current) La Couture & Paris (models with raised diamond on bell were better quality); France; Student
$142.50 Noblet; LeBlanc (1904 - current) La Couture & Paris (models with raised diamond on bell were better quality); France; Student
$143.55 American Standard; H. N. White (1895 - 1955(?)) Cleveland; U.S.; Student
$149.99 La Chapelle; ; U.S. or Italy; Student
$149.99 Artist; Penzel Muller; U.S.; Student
$152.50 American Standard; H. N. White (1895 - 1955(?)) Cleveland; U.S.; Student
$180.00 Pan American Special; C.G. Conn & Pan American (1879 - current) Elkhart; U.S.; Student
$200.00 Noblet; LeBlanc (1904 - current) La Couture & Paris (models with raised diamond on bell were better quality); France; Student
$203.97 Three Star (3 Star); Cundy Bettoney (1907-1950) Boston; U.S.; Student
$229.07 Pan American Special; C.G. Conn & Pan American (1879 - current) Elkhart; U.S.; Student
$280.00 Noblet; LeBlanc (1904 - current) La Couture & Paris (models with raised diamond on bell were better quality); France; Student
$329.98 American Standard; H. N. White (1895 - 1955(?)) Cleveland; U.S.; Student
$ 36.06 Coudete & Cie; Martin Freres (1840 - 1927) Paris; France; Student (probably)
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Author: William Hughes ★2017
Date: 2005-03-01 13:45
A sure sign of Spring...the annual survey of metal clarinets. Thanks, Jim, for your efforts.
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Author: David Spiegelthal ★2017
Date: 2005-03-01 14:22
And I can tell you from personal experience that Jim doesn't just talk the talk --- he walks the walk. He is THE MAN when it comes to metal clarinets.
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Author: Don Berger
Date: 2005-03-01 15:00
TKS, Jim, What COMPREHENCICIVITY [to coin a word], with statistical analysis and multiple listings !!!! Just what do you do with your spare-time relaxing ?? I'm just going to have to buy one of your "recommendations". Presently my "menagerie" [sp?] includes only one metal, a very mediocre [but shiny] "VICTORY" with a somewhat tarnished Bettoney?? barrel. I badly need a better one, I guess. Don
Thanx, Mark, Don
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